From builds-return-6497-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@apache.org Tue Dec 11 18:30:37 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id DC6AD180671 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 18:30:36 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 57450 invoked by uid 500); 11 Dec 2018 17:30:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact builds-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: builds@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list builds@apache.org Received: (qmail 57434 invoked by uid 99); 11 Dec 2018 17:30:35 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:30:35 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id AF266180CAC; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:30:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.202 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=effectivemachines.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iw5BABjR9hrV; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from effectivemachines.com (effectivemachines.com [104.236.136.112]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 22D2F60D70; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by effectivemachines.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 893FE1609A3; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from effectivemachines.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (effectivemachines.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id HcIxrdwr1BN2; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by effectivemachines.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314721630D1; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 effectivemachines.com 314721630D1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at effectivemachines.com Received: from effectivemachines.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (effectivemachines.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id x0gPdamlYOBm; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from awmbp-work.private.iobm.com (108-193-1-249.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [108.193.1.249]) by effectivemachines.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0192B1609A3; Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:30:30 -0800 (PST) From: Allen Wittenauer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.1 \(3445.101.1\)) Subject: Re: Can we package release artifacts on builds.a.o? Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 09:30:30 -0800 References: <21ED60A1-05FA-4049-B721-539032D23C2F@effectivemachines.com> <0F999B84-CCB2-4A78-AEDF-BBC58B09869C@adobe.com> <2363962D-E353-44F1-93E0-6F26544EB262@effectivemachines.com> <1566482535.1252.1544294871772.JavaMail.Joan@BRAIN> <0670F717-58B4-4F85-A92E-6FB5BD018C9C@adobe.com> <670385867.1593.1544548193779.JavaMail.Joan@BRAIN> To: builds@apache.org, wohali@apache.org In-Reply-To: <670385867.1593.1544548193779.JavaMail.Joan@BRAIN> Message-Id: <5D376FCE-9E57-40D1-9C60-C605816C3EBB@effectivemachines.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.101.1) > On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Joan Touzet wrote: >=20 > Jenkins users are deploying directly to Nexus with builds. >=20 > Isn't that speaking out of both sides of our mouths at the same time, = if Java developers can push release builds directly to Nexus but = non-Java developers can't? >=20 > Perhaps I'm misunderstanding...are the Nexus-published builds not = treated the same because they're not on dist.apache.org? Or are they not = release versions? Yes, you are misunderstanding. 1) Officially (legally?), source code distributions are "the = release." Any and all binaries are considered to be convenience = binaries so users don=E2=80=99t have to compile. They are not official. = [Statements like =E2=80=9Cverify a release by rebuilding=E2=80=9D = don=E2=80=99t really parse as a result.] =20 2) As far as I=E2=80=99m aware/all the projects I=E2=80=99ve = ever worked with, the uploads to Nexus are to the snapshot repo, not the = release repo. The release repos are still done manually.=20