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From Allen Wittenauer ...@effectivemachines.com>
Subject Re: Turning Off Bb-fbsd2
Date Thu, 09 Feb 2017 23:53:15 GMT

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:17 PM, Gavin McDonald <gavin@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> Name all the non-Linux, non-Windows machines that we have shut down that affected you
and your project directly please, Im interested to know. I’m very interested in hearing
how the shut down of these has negatively impacted your willingness to spend time on ASF projects.

> (What flavour OS you work on is up to you)

	The Mac OS X host was shut down literally a day after I sent out an email to common-dev@hadoop
announcing I had full build and patch testing working.  I had spent quite a bit of time getting
Apache Yetus ported over to work on Apache's OS X machine, then spent over a month on working
out the Hadoop specifics, running build after build after build. Competing with the Apache
Mesos jobs that also ran on that box. The reason I was told it was killed was: "no one was
using it".  (Umm, what?  Clearly no one bothered looking at the build log.)

	In parallel, I started working on the Solaris box.... which was then promptly shutdown not
too long after I had filed a jira to see if we could get the base CA certificates upgraded.
(which was pretty much all I needed, after that I could have finished getting the Hadoop builds
working on it as well).

	These were huge blows to Apache Hadoop, as one of the common complaints amongst committers
is the lack of resources to do cross platform testing. Given the ASF had that infrastructure
in place, being in this position was kind of dumb of the project.  Now the machines are gone
and as a result, the portability of the code is still very hit or miss and the ASF is worse
for it.

	Since that time, I've helped get the PowerPC build up and running, but that's been about
it... and even then, I spend little-to-no time on the ASF-side of the build bits for those
projects I'm interested simply because I have no idea if I'll be wasting my time because "whoops,
we've changed direction again".
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