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From Jake Farrell <jfarr...@apache.org>
Subject Re: volunteering for ASF Jenkins farm service maintenance
Date Thu, 03 Apr 2014 20:38:25 GMT
Om, Herve
What action are you specifically trying to achieve with the role you are
referring to as 'maintainer' ?

With the jenkins-admin karma you have you are able to look at jenkins
tickets that are in the infrastructure backlog and close them out or you
can answering questions on the builds@ list that people have. Just like any
other Apache project karma is earned and not just given. This is probably a
better link explaining how to volunteer than the wiki link for jenkins

http://apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist

Your offer to help is truly appreciated, we are always looking for people
to step up and help. We are happy to answer any questions you have, either
via this mailing list or you can find us on freenode in #asfinfra

-Jake



On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 3:08 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com>wrote:

> Jake,
>
> Just to be clear, we want to get a 'maintainer' account so we can help out
> with maintaining Jenkins.
> I already have an 'Admin' account, but I can only do limited things via
> the web console.
>
> The FAQ page you mentioned does not have this information.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.boutemy@free.fr>wrote:
>
>> > >  thanks again for volunteering, appreciate the help
>> was this an april's fool?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Hervé
>>
>> Le mercredi 2 avril 2014 02:34:04 Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
>> > Hi Jake,
>> >
>> > this page doesn't tell anything about volunteering, and seems not really
>> > updated:
>> >
>> > - on "FAQ For PMCs" side,  there is a list of Jenkins admins that seems
>> > really not accurate
>> >
>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins#Who_maintains_the_Jenkins_servers.3F
>> >
>> > - on "FAQ For Administrators" side, the svn link "more info on
>> > administering" seems not updated
>> >
>> > I personnally updated the page with as much recent info as I could, like
>> > crius change, but never got feed back nor found who knows more accurate
>> > info (like which slave can be administered by who, since it seems that
>> > Windows nodes for example are not like Ubuntu, or Hadoop or Lucene).
>> >
>> > So the question remains: how do we sign up?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Hervé
>> >
>> > Le mardi 1 avril 2014 03:03:03 Jake Farrell a écrit :
>> > > Please see http://wiki.apache.org/general/Jenkins for details on the
>> > > process, thanks again for volunteering, appreciate the help
>> > >
>> > > -Jake
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:24 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>> >
>> > <bigosmallm@gmail.com>wrote:
>> > > > On Mar 31, 2014 11:15 PM, "Jake Farrell" <jfarrell@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > > > Hey Om
>> > > > > You are right, talk is cheap. being an admin on any one of the
>> systems
>> > > >
>> > > > that
>> > > >
>> > > > > we run is more than maintaining your pet project and more about
>> > > > > providing
>> > > > > reliable systems for all of our projects to use. I'm sorry that
>> your
>> > > > > project is experiencing a problem with one of our systems. There
>> is an
>> > > >
>> > > > open
>> > > >
>> > > > > issue for this currently, INFRA-7488, and it has been assigned
>> and is
>> > > >
>> > > > being
>> > > >
>> > > > > worked on and it is understood that this is a pain point that
>> needs to
>> > > > > be
>> > > > > addressed for Apache Flex. We appreciate your understanding as
we
>> work
>> > > > > through all of the open issues that we face and if you are
>> interested
>> > > > > we
>> > > > > are always looking for volunteers who are willing to step up
and
>> help.
>> > > >
>> > > > I already volunteered to help.  I volunteer again.  How do I sign
>> up?
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > Om
>> > > >
>> > > > > Thanks again for your patience in this
>> > > > > -Jake
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:06 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> > > >
>> > > > bigosmallm@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > > > > Hervé,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks for bringing this issue up.  I second everything
you
>> said.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Having a good build system is essential for a project's
>> success.  I
>> > > > > > am
>> > > >
>> > > > sure
>> > > >
>> > > > > > the ASF realises this, which is why they have invested in
all
>> the
>> > > >
>> > > > hardware
>> > > >
>> > > > > > on which the build systems run.  But it is of really no
use to
>> us
>> > > >
>> > > > because
>> > > >
>> > > > > > there is no one around to actively maintain and provide
support
>> for
>> > > > > > it.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I know that the admins are volunteers and that they have
a real
>> life
>> > > > > > as
>> > > > > > well.  But, I am a volunteer too.  Every week I get only
a few
>> hours
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > spare working on my choice of an open source project.  But
I
>> often
>> > > > > > have
>> > > >
>> > > > to
>> > > >
>> > > > > > end up trying to fix a broken build on a server on which
I don't
>> > > > > > have
>> > > >
>> > > > real
>> > > >
>> > > > > > access to, that nobody wants to provide support.  No one
>> responds to
>> > > > > > emails.  There is very little reaction to JIRA tickets.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Again, talk is cheap.  I am here to offer my time to fix
the
>> builds
>> > > >
>> > > > issues
>> > > >
>> > > > > > so that at least my project of choice (Apache Flex) benefits
>> from
>> > > > > > it.
>> > > >
>> > > >  If I
>> > > >
>> > > > > > have additional time, I can help out with other build issues
as
>> > > > > > well.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > What does it take to become an admin for Jenkins builds
at the
>> ASF?
>> > > >
>> > > >  What
>> > > >
>> > > > > > does it take for the current admins to take notice and realize
>> that
>> > > >
>> > > > this is
>> > > >
>> > > > > > a real problem?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > Om
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >  On Mar 30, 2014 4:47 AM, "Hervé BOUTEMY" <
>> herve.boutemy@free.fr>
>> > > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Like many people in ASF projects, I need a good CI
service:
>> > > > > > > Jenkins
>> > > >
>> > > > is a
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > good
>> > > > > > > tool, then I expected ASF Jenkins farm to give a good
service.
>> > > > > > > That's
>> > > >
>> > > > not
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > case for a few monthes (no pun intended).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Then I'm trying to help by reporting problems, updating
>> > > > > > > documentation
>> > > >
>> > > > on
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > wiki
>> > > > > > > page, trying to answer to people on the list who face
same
>> > > > > > > problems
>> > > >
>> > > > than
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > me,
>> > > > > > > ping people able to do something (trying not to upset
them).
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > From these monthes, I only saw few Jenkins admins working
on
>> > > >
>> > > > problems,
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > always
>> > > > > > > the same 2 or 3 (not all on the wiki page). But they
seem to
>> have
>> > > >
>> > > > little
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > time
>> > > > > > > to fix immediate issues. And I don't see any plan for
fixing
>> > > >
>> > > > recurring
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > problems,
>> > > > > > > apart from master machine change in january: maybe
I'm not on
>> the
>> > > >
>> > > > right
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > list,
>> > > > > > > maybe there is nothing done.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I'm ready to give time on this service. But I need
to know
>> how to
>> > > >
>> > > > engage
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > people interested in recurring problems, discuss plans
to
>> improve
>> > > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > service.
>> > > > > > > Having admin rights on the farm can help, but without
>> discussion
>> > > > > > > with
>> > > >
>> > > > the
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > Jenkins farm admins team to decrypt problems and choose
a
>> > > > > > > concerted
>> > > > > > > solution,
>> > > > > > > that will only do half of a solution (better than nothing)
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Please let me know how to help to get a better service.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Hervé
>>
>>
>

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