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From David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>
Subject Re: volunteering for ASF Jenkins farm service maintenance
Date Thu, 03 Apr 2014 21:44:20 GMT
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 4:48 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
<bigosmallm@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Jake Farrell <jfarrell@apache.org> wrote:
>> Om, Herve
>> What action are you specifically trying to achieve with the role you are
>> referring to as 'maintainer' ?
> Things like setting up builds which require more than just the Jenkins web
> interface, kill stuck jobs, restart machines are required.  Add,
> upgrade/downgrade plugins as required, etc.

I realize it seems like a gigantic catch-22. Can't do much without
karma. Need to do things to demonstrate merit to get karma. Far more
difficult than being able to submit patches to a codebase. That said,
it's also pretty far ranging authority that has a widespread effect on
scores of projects, so it's hard to easily hand it out. It also
requires a decent time investment. There's also plenty of low-hanging
fruit that jobadmin is sufficient for.

>> With the jenkins-admin karma you have you are able to look at jenkins
>> tickets that are in the infrastructure backlog and close them out or you
>> can answering questions on the builds@ list that people have. Just like
>> any other Apache project karma is earned and not just given. This is
>> probably a better link explaining how to volunteer than the wiki link for
>> jenkins
> It does not appear as if there are folks looking at this mailing list to
> evaluate how good a job I am doing here.  I would like to know how many
> admins are actually involved with administering Jenkins.  With machines
> being offline for days together, build issues not being fixed for weeks
> together, I dont think there are many admins around here.  Am I wrong?
> Who am I supposed to impress with my work so that I get admin access?  Is
> it just you?

Ultimately I imagine it's the root@ folks who get to make the decision
on granting karma.

>> http://apache.org/dev/infra-volunteer.html#assist
> This link has no mention of Jenkins administration.

It also doesn't mention scores of other services Infra maintains, but
the advice remains valid.


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