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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
Date Thu, 03 Feb 2011 23:35:17 GMT
OK, I'll expand. Based on all the reading I've done about trademark
law, inside and outside of the ASF, I think that it is utterly
far-fetched to worry about the idea that Oracle will assert some sort
of trademark infringement if we have a domain name of
hudson.apache.org for any purpose in creation except promote some
other CI system. And I cannot see a running instance of Jenkins as a
'promotion'. So I claim that the trademark business is not relevant,
and we can have hudson.apache.org as a transitional convenience as
look as we like.

I apologize if you would have preferred this full form from the
outset, and we can always trot over to legal-discuss if you have a
contrary view.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Gav... <gavin@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Benson Margulies [mailto:bimargulies@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, 4 February 2011 8:46 AM
>> To: builds@apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>>
>> Folks, by all means choose another name, but please don't drag
>> 'trademark' into it.
>
> Excuse me? How did this sentence help the conversation?
>
> Gav...
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pbenedict@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Actually, the reason Apache chose the "jakarta" project is because
>> they
>> > didn't want to use "java" in the subdomain name.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Scott O'Bryan <darkarena@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Not sure it's been trademarked, but if it has, I'm pretty sure that
>> it
>> >> doesn't apply to subdomains.  I'm okay with migrating the domain
>> name,
>> >> but there should be a grace period.
>> >>
>> >> Either way, the redirect will make sure the Jenkins name shows up
>> for
>> >> everyone who cares .. :)
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Benedict <pbenedict@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I'd say get rid of hudsdon.a.o all together because Oracle is
>> claiming
>> >> the
>> >> > name as a trademark.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Jan Matèrne <apache@materne.de>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> +1 for Jenkins
>> >> >> +1 for redirecting hudson.a.o to jenkins.ao
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And "mark hudson.a.o as deprecated".
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> >> >>> Von: Nicolas Lalevée [mailto:nicolas.lalevee@hibnet.org]
>> >> >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2011 17:21
>> >> >>> An: builds@apache.org
>> >> >>> Betreff: Re: Questions : install Jenkins instead of Hudson
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> +1 for jenkins
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> for the host name I think we should have only one official
url.
>> Then
>> >> >>> which one I don't care that much.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Nicolas
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Le 3 févr. 2011 à 17:08, Nigel Daley a écrit :
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> +1 for Jenkins.  +1 for a redirect.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Nige
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Niklas Gustavsson
>> >> >>> <niklas@protocol7.com> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Olivier Lamy
>> <olamy@apache.org>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>> * which code branch do we have to follow (
Jenkins or Oracle
>> :
>> >> >>> IMHO
>> >> >>>>>>> the most active is the Jenkins one)
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Time will tell, but I'm betting on the Jenkins
branch.
>> Jenkins has
>> >> >>>>>> released a 1.396 release which contains a fix for
JNPL slaves
>> not
>> >> >>>>>> reconnecting correctly. This is a problem we currently
have
>> with
>> >> >>> our
>> >> >>>>>> Windows slave and that I would see fixed. So, unless
anyone
>> >> >>> objects, I
>> >> >>>>>> will look into upgrading to Jenkins 1.396 in the
near future.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> +1
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> * do we have to rename hudson.apache.org to
>> jenkins.apache.org
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> In my opinion, this has low priority. The major
reason for
>> renaming
>> >> >>>>>> would probably be to make a stand in the Hudson
vs Jenkins
>> >> >>> situation.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> :-) why not a redirect from hudson.a.o to jenkins.a.o
?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> -Matthias
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> /niklas
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> --
>> >> >>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
>> >> >>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
>> >> >>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
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