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From "Gavin" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Subject RE: Hudson on Windows
Date Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:59:52 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niklas Gustavsson [mailto:niklas@protocol7.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 5:01 PM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hudson on Windows
> 
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Nigel Daley <nigel@apache.org> wrote:
> > If someone wants to supply a Windows Hudson slave and administer it, I'm
> > fine with hooking it into the Hudson master (other Hudson admins can
> voice
> > their opinion).
> 
> Great. I'll be volunteering to install and maintain it.
> 
> > Sounds like this is to be a buildbot slave -- not sure it's
> > a good idea for a build slave to have 2 masters.

The original intent for the Windows VM that Brett requested was for
continuum + anyone that wanted to share it. I'm not sure that he meant share
it with another CI tool (but I could be mistaken.)

I would have thought Hudson would be better on its own.

I was going to suggest to Nigel that if he wants to run Hudson on Windows
then I can provide the license for it and he have it installed on a Yahoo
machine, that would be much easier for Nigel I would have thought. This puts
extra time and pressure on Nigel though and I don't think he has time to
maintain yet another machine. (But let me know please Nigel if you think
that is something that can be arranged for the future)

However ...

> 
> I'm assuming Brett wants it for a Continuum slave. I agree that I can
> foresee some potential issues with running two different slaves on the
> same server. However, I think that for now the benefits of having a
> single server to maintain overweight the potential problems. If we run
> into real problems (my biggest worries are around resource
> competition) it would be easy enough to separate the slaves at that
> time.

VMs are cheap, I would rather Hudson be on another VM away from Continuum -
albeit on the same host for now.

Niklas, you have volunteered to set up and maintain the Windows Hudson VM, I
would rather like to see another one or two offer to help maintain it also,
there is nothing worse for infra than a badly maintained and out of date
system and poorly managed VM. Not a reflection on you as I'm sure you will
do a wonderful job, but I don't want to put extra pressure on infra to help
keep this VM operational due to lack of enough oversight of the VM. You must
realise that the Windows VMs we are about to unleash at ASF will be Very
popular over the coming weeks and months.

So if more volunteers show up to help Niklas, I'll create the VM and get
Windows on it ready to rock and roll.

This will mean projects will have 3 choices for Windows CI builds,
Continuum, Hudson and Buildbot.

Let me know if any of that doesn't make sense.

Gav...

> 
> /niklas



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