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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ApacheCon 2019, Las Vegas - CFP link disabled before deadline
Date Tue, 14 May 2019 01:05:28 GMT
On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 16:07, Daniel Gruno <humbedooh@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On 13/05/2019 11.04, sebb wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 15:59, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/13/19 10:03 AM, sebb wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 14:48, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/13/19 8:34 AM, Suresh Kumar Anaparti wrote:
> >>>>> Hi ApacheCon team,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> CFP link to submit proposal is disabled before the deadline. Please
check.
> >>>>
> >>>> No. It wasn't. This is a matter of timezone differences.
> >>>
> >>> I've not seen how the deadline time was expressed, but it sounds like
> >>> it may have been expressed using a local time-zone.
> >>> If so, may I suggest that future deadlines are expressed as UTC?
> >>> Possibly also a weblink that automatically displays the local time.
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, sure, ok, but it doesn't matter. No matter when we close the CFP,
> >> no matter what timezone we have expressed it in, no matter what grace
> >> period we provide, there are people who attempt to submit after it
> >> closes. I am convinced that the only actual solution is to advertise one
> >> close date/time, and then actually close it 24 hours after that. Except
> >> then then people come to expect that, and you're back at the beginning.
> >>
> >> And, FWIW, CFP end time was expressed in the local time of the browser
> >> viewing it, specifically so there could be no confusion. Yet here we are. :)
> >
> > However the browser TZ may not have been set correctly.
> >
> > Whereas if the time is expressed in UTC, it is unambiguous.
> > BTW, what was the deadline in UTC?
>
> it was 2 hours ago, so 1pm UTC. The system tells you it "closes in N
> hours/days/months" depending on time remaining, so there should be no
> confusion there as to when it closes. If you see "closes in one day" and
> you wait a day, maybe don't :)

AFAICT 13:00 UTC is 18:30 IST (India Standard Time; +0530)

This agrees with the deadline quoted by the OP, i.e. 6:30 PM IST

However the OP says the CFP was already closed at 05:00 PM IST i.e. 17:00 IST

Something does not add up here.

> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
> >> http://rcbowen.com/
> >> @rbowen
>

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