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From Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org>
Subject Re: ApacheCon 2019, Las Vegas - CFP link disabled before deadline
Date Mon, 13 May 2019 15:06:59 GMT
On 13/05/2019 11.04, sebb wrote:
> On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 15:59, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>> On 5/13/19 10:03 AM, sebb wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 May 2019 at 14:48, Rich Bowen <rbowen@rcbowen.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/13/19 8:34 AM, Suresh Kumar Anaparti wrote:
>>>>> Hi ApacheCon team,
>>>>> CFP link to submit proposal is disabled before the deadline. Please check.
>>>> No. It wasn't. This is a matter of timezone differences.
>>> I've not seen how the deadline time was expressed, but it sounds like
>>> it may have been expressed using a local time-zone.
>>> If so, may I suggest that future deadlines are expressed as UTC?
>>> Possibly also a weblink that automatically displays the local time.
>> Well, sure, ok, but it doesn't matter. No matter when we close the CFP,
>> no matter what timezone we have expressed it in, no matter what grace
>> period we provide, there are people who attempt to submit after it
>> closes. I am convinced that the only actual solution is to advertise one
>> close date/time, and then actually close it 24 hours after that. Except
>> then then people come to expect that, and you're back at the beginning.
>> And, FWIW, CFP end time was expressed in the local time of the browser
>> viewing it, specifically so there could be no confusion. Yet here we are. :)
> However the browser TZ may not have been set correctly.
> Whereas if the time is expressed in UTC, it is unambiguous.
> BTW, what was the deadline in UTC?

it was 2 hours ago, so 1pm UTC. The system tells you it "closes in N 
hours/days/months" depending on time remaining, so there should be no 
confusion there as to when it closes. If you see "closes in one day" and 
you wait a day, maybe don't :)

>> --
>> Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com
>> http://rcbowen.com/
>> @rbowen

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