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From Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: apacheCon: Core and Apache: big data Budapest 28 September - 2 October
Date Fri, 12 Jun 2015 22:05:58 GMT
HI Jan,

Thanks for contacting LF about adding Kostas to the committee [1] but
just small correction that Apache Flink is no longer in incubator. It
is already a top level project of Apache.

Thanks,

Henry


[1] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/program-committee

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:55 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
> Will do.
>
> No problem with  the confusion, I am glad we clarified it.
>
> Please make sure the people submitting talks uses the right CFP, and when we
> come closer, I need an email with the
> track, so I can pick the talks.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
> On 10 June 2015 at 18:41, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, we would like to have Kostas, as representative from Apache
>> Flink PMCs, to be in the committee for Apache Con: Big Data given that
>> it will be happening in Europe and would be nice to have someone known
>> in Europe Big Data community to represent.
>>
>> I have not contacted LF about it and would love if you could contact
>> them on behalf of me =)
>>
>> Thanks again, and apologize again for the confusion.
>>
>> - Henry
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:31 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>> > HI
>> >
>> > Now even I understand it :-)
>> >
>> > They are separate conferences, and it is NOT a problem to build a track
>> > in
>> > "apache: core" and have single talks
>> > in "apache: Big data".
>> >
>> > We can for sure add Kostas to the big data committee. We are just trying
>> > to
>> > keep the committee small and efficient,
>> > based on experience. I would have thought that flink feels represented
>> > by
>> > e.g. Roman.
>> >
>> > Have you contacted LF directly (that is how I read the mail) otherwise I
>> > can
>> > do it.
>> >
>> > rgds
>> > jan i.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10 June 2015 at 17:09, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sincerely apologize for creating the confusion.
>> >>
>> >> For the ApacheCon Big Data, I was trying to ask LF to extend to
>> >> committee to include Kostas to help reviews talks proposals.
>> >>
>> >> If the concern is that you could not have same person managing tracks
>> >> in Core and as committee in the Big Data the I think we could update
>> >> accordingly.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Henry
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Kostas Tzoumas
>> >> <kostas@data-artisans.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi Jan!
>> >> >
>> >> > As far as I understood, Core and Big Data are separate conferences,
>> >> > so
>> >> > we
>> >> > were planning to submit a regular talk to Big Data, and create a
>> >> > track
>> >> > at
>> >> > Core for more in-depth presentation.
>> >> >
>> >> > Are Core and Big Data mutually exclusive, as in that projects should
>> >> > decide
>> >> > which one they participate in?
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> > Kostas
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:47 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now I am really confused. 30May I got an email from you stating
you
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> make a FLINK track, and since then
>> >> >> you have been on the program committee for "apacheCon: CORE".
>> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/FrontPage
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Based on the number of mails I have received from FLINK, there
seems
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> some confusion among the PMC also.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Currently Project FLINK is registred to produce a full track (6
>> >> >> presentations) for "apacheCON: CORE". If the PMC feels
>> >> >> the project is better located in "apache: Big data", then we remove
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> track, and you still have to submit presentations
>> >> >> to the CFP.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am in no way specialist in project FLINK, so I cannot determine
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> event is better for the project, the PMC knows
>> >> >> that. Please make sure your community uses the correct CFP (CORE
or
>> >> >> Big
>> >> >> Data) to be sure we do not loose valuable
>> >> >> presentations.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rgds
>> >> >> jan i.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 10 June 2015 at 03:11, Kostas Tzoumas <kostas@data-artisans.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Hi Jan,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I would be happy to be in the program committee. I am PMC member
of
>> >> >>> Flink, and, during my day job, co-founder and CEO of data Artisans.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best,
>> >> >>> Kostas
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Henry Saputra
>> >> >>> <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Hi Kostas,
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Could you reply to Jan, and the apachecon-discuss@apache.org
about
>> >> >>>> being added as project committee for Apache Big Data Conf
?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> - Henry
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> >>>> From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
>> >> >>>> Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:58 AM
>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: apacheCon: Core and Apache: big data Budapest
28
>> >> >>>> September - 2 October
>> >> >>>> To: Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> Cc: jan i <jani@apache.org>, apachecon-discuss@apache.org
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 8 June 2015 at 06:37, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Hi Jan,
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > I would like to have representative from Apache Flink
PMCs,
>> >> >>>> > maybe
>> >> >>>> > Stephan Ewen as VP, to represent in the program committee
of
>> >> >>>> > Apache
>> >> >>>> > Big Data conf.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Please have Stephan sent a short email, or we can add you,
this is
>> >> >>>> totally up to the project.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> As soon as you change the "maybe" to a "please add" it
will
>> >> >>>> happen.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > One of the main reasons is that Apache Flink already
raised
>> >> >>>> > hands
>> >> >>>> > to
>> >> >>>> > have full track in the Apache big data and have bigger
>> >> >>>> > representation
>> >> >>>> > and interest in terms of Big Data processing in Europe.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> And we sure hope you will continue to make presentations.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> One of the reasons for not allowing tracks it to coordinate
that
>> >> >>>> "big"
>> >> >>>> talks are not in the same slot.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> rgds
>> >> >>>> jan i.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Thanks,
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > Henry
>> >> >>>> >
>> >> >>>> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:35 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org>
wrote:
>> >> >>>> > > Hi PMC.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > I have been reading mailing lists, and also received
mails,
>> >> >>>> > > from
>> >> >>>> > > which I can
>> >> >>>> > > see some confusion about the 2 events in Budapest.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > I would like to clarify a couple of things, which
seems not to
>> >> >>>> > > be
>> >> >>>> > > sufficient
>> >> >>>> > > clarified in my previous email.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > The selection process for "apacheCON: core" is
look alike to
>> >> >>>> > > the
>> >> >>>> > > last couple
>> >> >>>> > > of apacheCON:
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 2 days, giving space
for ca. 72
>> >> >>>> > > presentations.
>> >> >>>> > > Deadline July 1.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > - Any project/PMC that wants to build a track,
sends an email
>> >> >>>> > > to
>> >> >>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me identifying a committee.
The
>> >> >>>> > > presentations
>> >> >>>> > > for the track must be  submitted to CFP. The
presentations in
>> >> >>>> > > the
>> >> >>>> > > track will
>> >> >>>> > > be selected by the committee.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > - The remaining presentation slots, will be filled
with
>> >> >>>> > > presentations from
>> >> >>>> > > the CFP,
>> >> >>>> > > hopefully someone will step up and help selecting.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > The selection process for "apache: big data"
is also look
>> >> >>>> > > alike
>> >> >>>> > > to
>> >> >>>> > > the last
>> >> >>>> > > couple of
>> >> >>>> > > apacheCON, with some small differences:
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 3 days, giving space
for ca 126
>> >> >>>> > > presentations.
>> >> >>>> > > Deadline uly 15.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > - We have a program committee in place
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/program-committee
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > Doug Cutting, Owen O’Malley, Roman Shaposhnik,
Reynold Xin and
>> >> >>>> > > C. Craig Ross Director of Developer Programs
at Linux
>> >> >>>> > > Foundation
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > They will select the talks. If you as PMC does
not feel
>> >> >>>> > > represented
>> >> >>>> > > by the
>> >> >>>> > > program committee, then LF is happy to extend
to committee,
>> >> >>>> > > please
>> >> >>>> > > send an
>> >> >>>> > > email to
>> >> >>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > Because there is a program committee in place
that balances
>> >> >>>> > > the
>> >> >>>> > > whole event,
>> >> >>>> > > project cannot build tracks on their own, but
nothing hinders
>> >> >>>> > > a
>> >> >>>> > > PMC
>> >> >>>> > > from
>> >> >>>> > > making a suggestion of how the track should look
like.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > Because LF is the producer and carries the financial
risk,
>> >> >>>> > > they
>> >> >>>> > > have
>> >> >>>> > > the
>> >> >>>> > > last word in the selection process, but they
have assured me
>> >> >>>> > > that
>> >> >>>> > > they will
>> >> >>>> > > not interfere with the above "ruleset".
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > Please remember these 2 events are our most important
window
>> >> >>>> > > to
>> >> >>>> > > the
>> >> >>>> > > world,
>> >> >>>> > > it is our responsibility to provide content that
people (not
>> >> >>>> > > only
>> >> >>>> > > other
>> >> >>>> > > committers) want to hear ! If we (being ASF)
manage to make
>> >> >>>> > > these
>> >> >>>> > > 2
>> >> >>>> > > events a
>> >> >>>> > > success, the apacheCON team, will have more freedom
to make
>> >> >>>> > > the
>> >> >>>> > > next
>> >> >>>> > > events
>> >> >>>> > > even better.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > If you have questions or comments, please do
not hesitate to
>> >> >>>> > > send
>> >> >>>> > > an
>> >> >>>> > > email
>> >> >>>> > > to apachecon-discuss@ or me.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > Thanks in advance for helping making these events
a big
>> >> >>>> > > success.
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > rgds
>> >> >>>> > >
>> >> >>>> > > jan i.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Data Artisans GmbH | Tempelhofer Ufer 17 | 10963 Berlin
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> phone +493055599146
>> >> >>> mobile +4917671721261
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B
>> >> >>> Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Data Artisans GmbH | Tempelhofer Ufer 17 | 10963 Berlin
>> >> >
>> >> > phone +493055599146
>> >> > mobile +4917671721261
>> >> >
>> >> > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B
>> >> > Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen
>> >
>> >
>
>

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