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From Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: apacheCon: Core and Apache: big data Budapest 28 September - 2 October
Date Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:09:34 GMT
Sincerely apologize for creating the confusion.

For the ApacheCon Big Data, I was trying to ask LF to extend to
committee to include Kostas to help reviews talks proposals.

If the concern is that you could not have same person managing tracks
in Core and as committee in the Big Data the I think we could update
accordingly.

Thanks,

Henry


On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Kostas Tzoumas
<kostas@data-artisans.com> wrote:
> Hi Jan!
>
> As far as I understood, Core and Big Data are separate conferences, so we
> were planning to submit a regular talk to Big Data, and create a track at
> Core for more in-depth presentation.
>
> Are Core and Big Data mutually exclusive, as in that projects should decide
> which one they participate in?
>
> Best,
> Kostas
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:47 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Now I am really confused. 30May I got an email from you stating you would
>> make a FLINK track, and since then
>> you have been on the program committee for "apacheCon: CORE".
>> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/FrontPage
>>
>> Based on the number of mails I have received from FLINK, there seems to be
>> some confusion among the PMC also.
>>
>> Currently Project FLINK is registred to produce a full track (6
>> presentations) for "apacheCON: CORE". If the PMC feels
>> the project is better located in "apache: Big data", then we remove the
>> track, and you still have to submit presentations
>> to the CFP.
>>
>> I am in no way specialist in project FLINK, so I cannot determine which
>> event is better for the project, the PMC knows
>> that. Please make sure your community uses the correct CFP (CORE or Big
>> Data) to be sure we do not loose valuable
>> presentations.
>>
>> rgds
>> jan i.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10 June 2015 at 03:11, Kostas Tzoumas <kostas@data-artisans.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jan,
>>>
>>> I would be happy to be in the program committee. I am PMC member of
>>> Flink, and, during my day job, co-founder and CEO of data Artisans.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Kostas
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Kostas,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could you reply to Jan, and the apachecon-discuss@apache.org about
>>>> being added as project committee for Apache Big Data Conf ?
>>>>
>>>> - Henry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
>>>> Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:58 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: apacheCon: Core and Apache: big data Budapest 28
>>>> September - 2 October
>>>> To: Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: jan i <jani@apache.org>, apachecon-discuss@apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 June 2015 at 06:37, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Jan,
>>>> >
>>>> > I would like to have representative from Apache Flink PMCs, maybe
>>>> > Stephan Ewen as VP, to represent in the program committee of Apache
>>>> > Big Data conf.
>>>>
>>>> Please have Stephan sent a short email, or we can add you, this is
>>>> totally up to the project.
>>>>
>>>> As soon as you change the "maybe" to a "please add" it will happen.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > One of the main reasons is that Apache Flink already raised hands to
>>>> > have full track in the Apache big data and have bigger representation
>>>> > and interest in terms of Big Data processing in Europe.
>>>>
>>>> And we sure hope you will continue to make presentations.
>>>>
>>>> One of the reasons for not allowing tracks it to coordinate that "big"
>>>> talks are not in the same slot.
>>>>
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan i.
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks,
>>>> >
>>>> > Henry
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:35 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> > > Hi PMC.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I have been reading mailing lists, and also received mails, from
>>>> > > which I can
>>>> > > see some confusion about the 2 events in Budapest.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I would like to clarify a couple of things, which seems not to
be
>>>> > > sufficient
>>>> > > clarified in my previous email.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The selection process for "apacheCON: core" is look alike to the
>>>> > > last couple
>>>> > > of apacheCON:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 2 days, giving space for ca. 72
>>>> > > presentations.
>>>> > > Deadline July 1.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > - Any project/PMC that wants to build a track, sends an email to
>>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me identifying a committee. The presentations
>>>> > > for the track must be  submitted to CFP. The presentations in the
>>>> > > track will
>>>> > > be selected by the committee.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > - The remaining presentation slots, will be filled with
>>>> > > presentations from
>>>> > > the CFP,
>>>> > > hopefully someone will step up and help selecting.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The selection process for "apache: big data" is also look alike
to
>>>> > > the last
>>>> > > couple of
>>>> > > apacheCON, with some small differences:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 3 days, giving space for ca 126
>>>> > > presentations.
>>>> > > Deadline uly 15.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > - We have a program committee in place
>>>> > >
>>>> > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/program-committee
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Doug Cutting, Owen O’Malley, Roman Shaposhnik, Reynold Xin and
>>>> > > C. Craig Ross Director of Developer Programs at Linux Foundation
>>>> > >
>>>> > > They will select the talks. If you as PMC does not feel represented
>>>> > > by the
>>>> > > program committee, then LF is happy to extend to committee, please
>>>> > > send an
>>>> > > email to
>>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Because there is a program committee in place that balances the
>>>> > > whole event,
>>>> > > project cannot build tracks on their own, but nothing hinders a
PMC
>>>> > > from
>>>> > > making a suggestion of how the track should look like.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Because LF is the producer and carries the financial risk, they
have
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > last word in the selection process, but they have assured me that
>>>> > > they will
>>>> > > not interfere with the above "ruleset".
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Please remember these 2 events are our most important window to
the
>>>> > > world,
>>>> > > it is our responsibility to provide content that people (not only
>>>> > > other
>>>> > > committers) want to hear ! If we (being ASF) manage to make these
2
>>>> > > events a
>>>> > > success, the apacheCON team, will have more freedom to make the
next
>>>> > > events
>>>> > > even better.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > If you have questions or comments, please do not hesitate to send
an
>>>> > > email
>>>> > > to apachecon-discuss@ or me.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks in advance for helping making these events a big success.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > rgds
>>>> > >
>>>> > > jan i.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>> Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Data Artisans GmbH | Tempelhofer Ufer 17 | 10963 Berlin
>
> phone +493055599146
> mobile +4917671721261
>
> Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B
> Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen

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