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From Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: apacheCon: Core and Apache: big data Budapest 28 September - 2 October
Date Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:41:50 GMT
Thanks, we would like to have Kostas, as representative from Apache
Flink PMCs, to be in the committee for Apache Con: Big Data given that
it will be happening in Europe and would be nice to have someone known
in Europe Big Data community to represent.

I have not contacted LF about it and would love if you could contact
them on behalf of me =)

Thanks again, and apologize again for the confusion.

- Henry

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:31 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
> HI
>
> Now even I understand it :-)
>
> They are separate conferences, and it is NOT a problem to build a track in
> "apache: core" and have single talks
> in "apache: Big data".
>
> We can for sure add Kostas to the big data committee. We are just trying to
> keep the committee small and efficient,
> based on experience. I would have thought that flink feels represented by
> e.g. Roman.
>
> Have you contacted LF directly (that is how I read the mail) otherwise I can
> do it.
>
> rgds
> jan i.
>
>
>
>
> On 10 June 2015 at 17:09, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sincerely apologize for creating the confusion.
>>
>> For the ApacheCon Big Data, I was trying to ask LF to extend to
>> committee to include Kostas to help reviews talks proposals.
>>
>> If the concern is that you could not have same person managing tracks
>> in Core and as committee in the Big Data the I think we could update
>> accordingly.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Henry
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Kostas Tzoumas
>> <kostas@data-artisans.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Jan!
>> >
>> > As far as I understood, Core and Big Data are separate conferences, so
>> > we
>> > were planning to submit a regular talk to Big Data, and create a track
>> > at
>> > Core for more in-depth presentation.
>> >
>> > Are Core and Big Data mutually exclusive, as in that projects should
>> > decide
>> > which one they participate in?
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Kostas
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:47 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi.
>> >>
>> >> Now I am really confused. 30May I got an email from you stating you
>> >> would
>> >> make a FLINK track, and since then
>> >> you have been on the program committee for "apacheCon: CORE".
>> >> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/FrontPage
>> >>
>> >> Based on the number of mails I have received from FLINK, there seems to
>> >> be
>> >> some confusion among the PMC also.
>> >>
>> >> Currently Project FLINK is registred to produce a full track (6
>> >> presentations) for "apacheCON: CORE". If the PMC feels
>> >> the project is better located in "apache: Big data", then we remove the
>> >> track, and you still have to submit presentations
>> >> to the CFP.
>> >>
>> >> I am in no way specialist in project FLINK, so I cannot determine which
>> >> event is better for the project, the PMC knows
>> >> that. Please make sure your community uses the correct CFP (CORE or Big
>> >> Data) to be sure we do not loose valuable
>> >> presentations.
>> >>
>> >> rgds
>> >> jan i.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 10 June 2015 at 03:11, Kostas Tzoumas <kostas@data-artisans.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Jan,
>> >>>
>> >>> I would be happy to be in the program committee. I am PMC member of
>> >>> Flink, and, during my day job, co-founder and CEO of data Artisans.
>> >>>
>> >>> Best,
>> >>> Kostas
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Henry Saputra
>> >>> <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi Kostas,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Could you reply to Jan, and the apachecon-discuss@apache.org about
>> >>>> being added as project committee for Apache Big Data Conf ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Henry
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>> From: jan i <jani@apache.org>
>> >>>> Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:58 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: apacheCon: Core and Apache: big data Budapest 28
>> >>>> September - 2 October
>> >>>> To: Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>> >>>> Cc: jan i <jani@apache.org>, apachecon-discuss@apache.org
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 8 June 2015 at 06:37, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Hi Jan,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I would like to have representative from Apache Flink PMCs,
maybe
>> >>>> > Stephan Ewen as VP, to represent in the program committee of
Apache
>> >>>> > Big Data conf.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Please have Stephan sent a short email, or we can add you, this
is
>> >>>> totally up to the project.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As soon as you change the "maybe" to a "please add" it will happen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > One of the main reasons is that Apache Flink already raised
hands
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > have full track in the Apache big data and have bigger
>> >>>> > representation
>> >>>> > and interest in terms of Big Data processing in Europe.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And we sure hope you will continue to make presentations.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> One of the reasons for not allowing tracks it to coordinate that
>> >>>> "big"
>> >>>> talks are not in the same slot.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> rgds
>> >>>> jan i.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thanks,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Henry
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:35 AM, jan i <jani@apache.org>
wrote:
>> >>>> > > Hi PMC.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > I have been reading mailing lists, and also received mails,
from
>> >>>> > > which I can
>> >>>> > > see some confusion about the 2 events in Budapest.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > I would like to clarify a couple of things, which seems
not to be
>> >>>> > > sufficient
>> >>>> > > clarified in my previous email.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > The selection process for "apacheCON: core" is look alike
to the
>> >>>> > > last couple
>> >>>> > > of apacheCON:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 2 days, giving space for ca. 72
>> >>>> > > presentations.
>> >>>> > > Deadline July 1.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > - Any project/PMC that wants to build a track, sends an
email to
>> >>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me identifying a committee. The
>> >>>> > > presentations
>> >>>> > > for the track must be  submitted to CFP. The presentations
in the
>> >>>> > > track will
>> >>>> > > be selected by the committee.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > - The remaining presentation slots, will be filled with
>> >>>> > > presentations from
>> >>>> > > the CFP,
>> >>>> > > hopefully someone will step up and help selecting.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > The selection process for "apache: big data" is also look
alike
>> >>>> > > to
>> >>>> > > the last
>> >>>> > > couple of
>> >>>> > > apacheCON, with some small differences:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 3 days, giving space for ca 126
>> >>>> > > presentations.
>> >>>> > > Deadline uly 15.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > - We have a program committee in place
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/program-committee
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Doug Cutting, Owen O’Malley, Roman Shaposhnik, Reynold
Xin and
>> >>>> > > C. Craig Ross Director of Developer Programs at Linux
Foundation
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > They will select the talks. If you as PMC does not feel
>> >>>> > > represented
>> >>>> > > by the
>> >>>> > > program committee, then LF is happy to extend to committee,
>> >>>> > > please
>> >>>> > > send an
>> >>>> > > email to
>> >>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Because there is a program committee in place that balances
the
>> >>>> > > whole event,
>> >>>> > > project cannot build tracks on their own, but nothing
hinders a
>> >>>> > > PMC
>> >>>> > > from
>> >>>> > > making a suggestion of how the track should look like.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Because LF is the producer and carries the financial risk,
they
>> >>>> > > have
>> >>>> > > the
>> >>>> > > last word in the selection process, but they have assured
me that
>> >>>> > > they will
>> >>>> > > not interfere with the above "ruleset".
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Please remember these 2 events are our most important
window to
>> >>>> > > the
>> >>>> > > world,
>> >>>> > > it is our responsibility to provide content that people
(not only
>> >>>> > > other
>> >>>> > > committers) want to hear ! If we (being ASF) manage to
make these
>> >>>> > > 2
>> >>>> > > events a
>> >>>> > > success, the apacheCON team, will have more freedom to
make the
>> >>>> > > next
>> >>>> > > events
>> >>>> > > even better.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > If you have questions or comments, please do not hesitate
to send
>> >>>> > > an
>> >>>> > > email
>> >>>> > > to apachecon-discuss@ or me.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Thanks in advance for helping making these events a big
success.
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > rgds
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > jan i.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>> Data Artisans GmbH | Tempelhofer Ufer 17 | 10963 Berlin
>> >>>
>> >>> phone +493055599146
>> >>> mobile +4917671721261
>> >>>
>> >>> Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B
>> >>> Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Data Artisans GmbH | Tempelhofer Ufer 17 | 10963 Berlin
>> >
>> > phone +493055599146
>> > mobile +4917671721261
>> >
>> > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B
>> > Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen
>
>

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