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From Ryan Baxter <rbaxte...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration track ?
Date Tue, 16 Oct 2012 13:19:48 GMT
I will add Shindig to the list as well.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Sagara Gunathunga <
sagara.gunathunga@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Steve Holden <steve@holdenweb.com> wrote:
> > Sagara:
> >
> > Could name some other projects that you think would be suitable for
> inclusion in the "messaging" track?
>
> In my POV following projects are suitable for above track considering
> integration also under this track.
>
> Synapse
> ServiceMix
> Tuscany
> Etch
> Thrift
> Avro
> ActiveMQ
> Qpid
>
> You also can find some other suggestion from here [1]
>
> [1] -
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%3C4FE2DB7A.20103@apache.org%3E
>
> Thanks !
>
>
> >
> > regards
> >  Steve
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Steve Holden <steve@holdenweb.com>
> wrote:
> >>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:12 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There was a concern raised by some people including myself during the
> >>>> EU CFP time to have a Messaging or Enterprise Integration track
> >>>> instead of allocating a track completely to a single messing project.
> >>>> At that time we were too late to raise those issues and also had been
> >>>> informed that the track chairs are always ready to accept "related"
> >>>> talks if they looks good but looking at EU schedule I can see one
> >>>> messing project got number of slots and it's hard to see any other
> >>>> talks from messaging related projects on same track.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now we are in CFP for N/A event and still I can't see  Messaging or
> >>>> Enterprise Integration track instead what I can see is again possible
> >>>> messaging track is allocated for a specific messaging project in same
> >>>> as EU event. In case If we have enough space I'm very positive to have
> >>>> more tracks like "General Messaging" and another track for a specific
> >>>> messaging project but If we don't have enough space why can't we make
> >>>> a general messaging track so that number of messaging related projects
> >>>> can submit their talks and cover more scope/community ?
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks. In the case of North America, this is probably mostly due to
> our relative ignorance of the Apache "ecosphere". So I am very glad you
> have raised the issue. If you can suggest changes to the CfP to make it
> more inclusive of a wider range we would be grateful for your help. We want
> to give all projects the opportunity to showcase their work.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your kind response, I'm happy to help out in area of my
> >> expertise. As I mentioned in my previous mail this is my suggestion.
> >>
> >> If we have enough space and enough people to handle more tracks please
> >> add a new track called "Messaging", there are considerable number of
> >> projects available under this category. In case if we don't have
> >> enough space or people better to rename "Camel in Action" as a
> >> "Messaging" track so that other messaging related projects also can
> >> submit their talks under this track instead of limiting to a specific
> >> project.
> >>
> >> Thanks !
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> Taking a different example I always think "Big data" is the ideal name
> >>>> for a track instead calling it using a specific big data project name.
> >>>> As I involved organizing number of Apache events in Asia from 2009 I
> >>>> don't have any concern about impartiality of organizers, also I can
> >>>> understand the difficulty with EU event with time but clearly in NA
> >>>> event we have enough time to make changes so that event/tracks will
> >>>> cover wide range of projects and get wider community attraction.
> >>>> Finally I expect N/A organizers will consider my comments in a
> >>>> positive manner.
> >>>>
> >>> We certainly do regard such input as positive, and stand ready to hear
> your (and everybody else's) suggestions for improving the CfP and making
> the conference more welcoming to a broader section of the Apache community.
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks !
> >>>>
> >>> And thank *you*.
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sagara Gunathunga
> >>>>
> >>>> Blog      - http://ssagara.blogspot.com
> >>>> Web      - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
> >>>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Steve Holden steve@holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC
> http://holdenweb.com/
> >>> Python classes (and much more) through the web
> http://oreillyschool.com/
> >>> Conferences and technical event management at
> http://theopenbastion.com/
> >>> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition)
> http://apachecon.eu/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sagara Gunathunga
> >>
> >> Blog      - http://ssagara.blogspot.com
> >> Web      - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
> >> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
> >
> > --
> > Steve Holden steve@holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/
> > Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/
> > Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/
> > Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Sagara Gunathunga
>
> Blog      - http://ssagara.blogspot.com
> Web      - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
>

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