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From "Sally Khudairi" <sallykhuda...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration track ?
Date Wed, 17 Oct 2012 05:46:54 GMT
Perfect, thank you!

Steve, can you please update this revised entry within the next business day? Time is of the
essence, as the CFP closes in less than 3 weeks.

Thanking you in advance,
Sally


[From the mobile; kindly excuse spelling/spacing/auto-correct anomalies]

----- Reply message -----
From: "Sagara Gunathunga" <sagara.gunathunga@gmail.com>
To: "Sally Khudairi" <sk@apache.org>
Cc: "Ryan Baxter" <rbaxter85@gmail.com>, "apachecon-discuss@apache.org" <apachecon-discuss@apache.org>,
"Steve Holden" <steve@holdenweb.com>
Subject: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration track ?
Date: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 1:37 AM


On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Sally Khudairi <sk@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone --thanks for your patience on this; I've been on deadline all
> day and have only now had a chance to get to the edit.
>
> If the following meets your approval, we'll update the CFP (and supporting
> marketing) as soon as possible:
>
> "Enterprise Messaging & Integration –-common problems, solutions, and best
> practices with various Apache SOA/infrastructure projects, including
> ActiveMQ, Camel, Qpid, ServiceMix, Shindig, Synapse, Thrift, Tuscany, and
> more."

looks good, thanks Sally !

>
>
> Suggestions, comments welcome! If I'm barking up the wrong tree or
> misunderstood the original issue, do let me know :-)
>
> Cheers & chat soon,
> Sally
>
> + and thanks, Sagara, for bringing this up!
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sally Khudairi <sk@apache.org>
> To: Ryan Baxter <rbaxter85@gmail.com>; "apachecon-discuss@apache.org"
> <apachecon-discuss@apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 9:56
>
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration
> track ?
>
> OK; please understand that there's a very strong chance that this list will
> be shortened to 5-7 projects. It's not going to be inclusive for the CFP, as
> space is limited.
>
> Here's exactly how the PMCs can help: promote the CFP and let your community
> know how they can participate!
>
> I'll ping y'all once we've got the edits up online. I'll tweet about this as
> well.
>
> Cheers,
> Sally
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ryan Baxter <rbaxter85@gmail.com>
> To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org
> Cc: Sally Khudairi <sallykhudairi@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 9:19
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon N/A tracks - Messaging or Enterprise Integration
> track ?
>
> I will add Shindig to the list as well.
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Sagara Gunathunga
> <sagara.gunathunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Steve Holden <steve@holdenweb.com> wrote:
>> Sagara:
>>
>> Could name some other projects that you think would be suitable for
>> inclusion in the "messaging" track?
>
> In my POV following projects are suitable for above track considering
> integration also under this track.
>
> Synapse
> ServiceMix
> Tuscany
> Etch
> Thrift
> Avro
> ActiveMQ
> Qpid
>
> You also can find some other suggestion from here [1]
>
> [1] -
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-apachecon-discuss/201206.mbox/%3C4FE2DB7A.20103@apache.org%3E
>
> Thanks !
>
>
>>
>> regards
>>  Steve
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Steve Holden <steve@holdenweb.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:12 AM, Sagara Gunathunga wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There was a concern raised by some people including myself during the
>>>>> EU CFP time to have a Messaging or Enterprise Integration track
>>>>> instead of allocating a track completely to a single messing project.
>>>>> At that time we were too late to raise those issues and also had been
>>>>> informed that the track chairs are always ready to accept "related"
>>>>> talks if they looks good but looking at EU schedule I can see one
>>>>> messing project got number of slots and it's hard to see any other
>>>>> talks from messaging related projects on same track.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now we are in CFP for N/A event and still I can't see  Messaging or
>>>>> Enterprise Integration track instead what I can see is again possible
>>>>> messaging track is allocated for a specific messaging project in same
>>>>> as EU event. In case If we have enough space I'm very positive to have
>>>>> more tracks like "General Messaging" and another track for a specific
>>>>> messaging project but If we don't have enough space why can't we make
>>>>> a general messaging track so that number of messaging related projects
>>>>> can submit their talks and cover more scope/community ?
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks. In the case of North America, this is probably mostly due to our
>>>> relative ignorance of the Apache "ecosphere". So I am very glad you have
>>>> raised the issue. If you can suggest changes to the CfP to make it more
>>>> inclusive of a wider range we would be grateful for your help. We want to
>>>> give all projects the opportunity to showcase their work.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your kind response, I'm happy to help out in area of my
>>> expertise. As I mentioned in my previous mail this is my suggestion.
>>>
>>> If we have enough space and enough people to handle more tracks please
>>> add a new track called "Messaging", there are considerable number of
>>> projects available under this category. In case if we don't have
>>> enough space or people better to rename "Camel in Action" as a
>>> "Messaging" track so that other messaging related projects also can
>>> submit their talks under this track instead of limiting to a specific
>>> project.
>>>
>>> Thanks !
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Taking a different example I always think "Big data" is the ideal name
>>>>> for a track instead calling it using a specific big data project name.
>>>>> As I involved organizing number of Apache events in Asia from 2009 I
>>>>> don't have any concern about impartiality of organizers, also I can
>>>>> understand the difficulty with EU event with time but clearly in NA
>>>>> event we have enough time to make changes so that event/tracks will
>>>>> cover wide range of projects and get wider community attraction.
>>>>> Finally I expect N/A organizers will consider my comments in a
>>>>> positive manner.
>>>>>
>>>> We certainly do regard such input as positive, and stand ready to hear
>>>> your (and everybody else's) suggestions for improving the CfP and making
the
>>>> conference more welcoming to a broader section of the Apache community.
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>
>>>> And thank *you*.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Sagara Gunathunga
>>>>>
>>>>> Blog      - http://ssagara.blogspot.com
>>>>> Web      - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
>>>>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Steve Holden steve@holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/
>>>> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/
>>>> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/
>>>> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sagara Gunathunga
>>>
>>> Blog      - http://ssagara.blogspot.com
>>> Web      - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
>>> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
>>
>> --
>> Steve Holden steve@holdenweb.com,  Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/
>> Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/
>> Conferences and technical event management at http://theopenbastion.com/
>> Next: Helping with ApacheCon EU (community edition) http://apachecon.eu/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sagara Gunathunga
>
> Blog      - http://ssagara.blogspot.com
> Web      - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
> LinkedIn - http://www.linkedin.com/in/ssagara
>
>
>
>
>
>



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