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From Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
Subject Re: apachecon eu speaker subsidies
Date Tue, 31 Jul 2012 19:31:15 GMT

that's exactly how I meant it as well.

Speakers should get a free conf pass, or at least get 1 free day per track they hold. 

Accommodation and travel have to be paid by themselfs. The standard travel assistant rules


----- Original Message -----
> From: Donald Harbison <dpharbison@gmail.com>
> To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: apachecon eu speaker subsidies
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Nick Burch <nick@apache.org> wrote:
>>  On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Mark Struberg wrote:
>>>  Folks, I know no single conference where the speakers have to pay for 
> the
>>>  conference itself. That's just ridiculous.
>>  There are quite a few out there. It's starting to look like some people
>>  are finding the idea normal, others are shocked, depending on what other
>>  conferences you've spoken at recently...
>>   The ride and hotel could be handled via the travel-help as we don't 
> have
>>>  the budget of other big conferences - but tickets must be included.
>>  <change-of-hat>
>>  TAC won't just carte-blanche hand out plane tickets to all speakers,
>>  sorry. Typical TAC recipients are students, people out of work, people just
>>  starting out in work, people who work in very low paid sectors etc.
>>  There is a strict judging process, and giving lots of preference to
>>  speakers, above and beyond others, risks problems with our charitable
>>  status. Some speakers will get help, certainly, and many have been helped
>>  out in the past, but by no means can TAC fund them all....
>>  </change-of-hat>
>>  Unless someone is able to find a hefty chunk of sponsorship down the back
>>  of their company sofa, the budget as it currently stands doesn't let us
>>  both comp speakers, and offer them free hotel accomodation.
>>  So, we come back to the earlier question once more. For those people who
>>  won't be fully funded by their company no matter what, which is more
>>  important to you being able to come?
>>  * Would it be better for you two pay a couple of hundred euros towards
>>    your ticket (say, something like half price), and get accomodation?
>>  * Or would it be better if your ticket was completely free, but you
>>    have to arrange and pay for your own accomodation?
> +1 Ticket free/pay for accomodation. Risky to mix the two, IMHO.
>>  We've had a few people already vote for the latter, but is that the 
> case
>>  for everyone? Which is the one we should be concentrating on trying to make
>>  happen?
>>  Thanks
>>  Nick

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