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From: Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 21:44:10 +0200
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Subject: Re: ApacheCon's EU 2012 and NA 2013 - save the dates and get
 involved!
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On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Donald Harbison <dpharbison@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Goetz, Paul <paul.goetz@sap.com> wrote:

>> Usually you send a mail with the subject [POLL] ACEU Date and give the
>> two options like:
>>
>> ACEU happens best on:
>> [] 6-8 November (clashing with WJAX)
>> [] 20-22 November (clashing with thanksgiving in the US)
>>
>
> Yes, nobody will come from USA for sure, if the dates are moved to 20-22
> November.
> I will be a very 'un-happy camper' as we say, since I plan to attend.

Actually I start to think that 6-8 Novembre is better.

My Reasons:

- as Mo mentioned, how likely is it that people can attend 2
conferences in one month? I consider it low. Not only from budget,
from timing too.

- ApacheCon is not only for "outsiders", its also great for
"insiders". I think some projects get a turbo boost when people can
meet face to face. Misunderstanding are reduce. Excluding the US would
be a pity, because many of us cannot meet their friends (not every eu
citizen has the money to go to na con).

- Again, I think WJAX adresses different people. Last time were many
talks on DevOps, Agile, How-To-Build-Your-Team and such. I never
attended an ApacheCon, but my impression is it is more about the
projects. Maybe we get ppl who never attend WJAX out of their holes

- Somebody said, with EU con we can experiment. Let's try and see if
we are really different or make up an attracting event :-)


That being said, when we decide on 6-8 I strongly believe we need to
get these news out through all channels asap before the WJAX ads
start.

Cheers