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Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 22:29:02 +0530
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Subject: Re: ApacheCon's EU 2012 and NA 2013 - save the dates and get
 involved!
From: Sagara Gunathunga <sagara.gunathunga@gmail.com>
To: "apachecon-discuss@apache.org" <apachecon-discuss@apache.org>
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On Friday, May 4, 2012, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Hi Noirin
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:29 PM, N=F3ir=EDn Plunkett <noirin@apache.org<ja=
vascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Nick Burch <nick.burch@alfresco.com<jav=
ascript:;>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not an American, and I don't live there, so the thanksgiving thin=
g
> > > doesn't affect me personally. However, my hope is that we can try out
> > some
> > > new ideas and formats in Europe, and the North America conference can
> > learn
> > > from that. (The event in Europe will be smaller and cheaper, so we
> should
> > > have more chance to experiment and innovate) If we clash with
> > thanksgiving
> > > then we'll loose the bulk of our American attendees, which likely mea=
ns
> > we
> > > loose both those with experiences of organising past ApacheCons, and =
we
> > > loose much of the chance for the organisers of the next one to learn
> from
> > > us.
> > >
> > > I completely agree that clashing with JAX isn't great, and will cause
> us
> > to
> > > miss out on some German speaking attendees, which is a huge shame. (A=
m
> I
> > > right in thinking that it's all in German, so we won't loose any othe=
r
> > > European language groups?) It's very hard to judge the two, but my
> > feeling
> > > was that loosing all the Americans (especially the ACNA13 team) would
> be
> > > worse. I could be wrong though (it does happen!), so if you think we'=
ve
> > > weighed the two up wrong please explain why!
> >
> > I think the weighting is all wrong here. We're running ApacheCon EU in
> > Germany. German speaking attendees and contributors will be a huge
> > part of our market, and a huge part of the fresh ideas we so
> > desperately need.
> >
> > I don't think we were ever going to get a huge number of US folk to
> > ACEU. Thanksgiving probably means we'll get almost none, but I think
> > we're going from "a couple of dozen" to "almost none".
> >
> > Scheduling against W-JAX, which is smaller than JAX but still
> > substantial, feels to me like we'll lose a similar percentage of the
> > German-speaking audience, but it's a *significantly* bigger group to
> > start with.
> >
>
> Good point here, but the question is how can you make sure that whoever
> already attended W-JAX will also attend ApacheCon against how many of the
> German speaking people who will be so keen to attend ApacheCon EU ?
>
> Yes the we *might* loose some percentage of German speaking people who wi=
ll
> attend W-JAX but what is the probability of them also attending ApacheCon
> EU ?


Finding an answer for above question can be defecult but IMO this is the
exact question that we need an answer before reschedule the event.

Thanks !

>
>
> >
> > The Apache Way is to work on mailing lists. The team for this event
> > should be able to get most of the benefit of past organisers without
> > needing them physically present. And the team for the next event
> > should be able to learn from the ACEU team in the same way.
> >
> > Noirin
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving=
"
> - Albert Einstein
>


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