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From Donald Harbison <dpharbi...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: ApacheCon's EU 2012 and NA 2013 - save the dates and get involved!
Date Fri, 04 May 2012 18:56:21 GMT
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:55 PM, Goetz, Paul <paul.goetz@sap.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > just some background on the venue constraints so far:
> > We selected Rhein-Neckar-Arena Sinsheim to get the most out of the
> available budget.
> > Sinsheim is not known for its famous nightlife (it's more like
> Knockree), but SAP gets a special price for booking the venue there + we
> have all the technical equipment available (and we're still trying to get
> some kind of beer run organized :o)
> > Basic idea - at least as far as I understood - was to allow even those
> with a small travel budget to participate.
> >
> > With that in mind, I would agree with Noirin, that those interested in
> Apache might still get to ApacheCon EU, even if they went to W-JAX before
> (at least from a budget perspective, not so sure about the time required to
> be out-of-office).
> > And back to the nightlife: Munich surely outperforms Sinsheim in this
> regards (maybe this is why everybody goes to Berlin Buzzwords and spends
> the budget there :o)
> > Therefore, from my perspective, it seems better to have the ACEU date
> not clashing with W-JAX - if possible (even without knowing the detailed
> numbers).
> >
> > Anyway, getting numbers about the expected audience (EU/US/...) seems to
> be difficult.
> > @Nick: Are there any numbers from the past?
> >
> > Although I'm not keen on asking our SAP venue staff at all (as they most
> probably will kill me for that), I could give it a try and ask on Monday.
> If it turns out, that we can't change the contract, we won't have a choice
> anyway...
> > But: In order to do that, I need a decision - either move to the new
> date (20-22 November) or keep the original (6-8 November). And if possible
> by Monday next week...
> > I assume that the longer we need, the fewer the probability that 20-22
> November is still available.
> >
> > What can I do to get a quick vote or quick poll on "In case we're able
> to change the date: Who prefers to move planned ACEU 2012 from 6-8 to 20-22
> (November)"?
>
> Usually you send a mail with the subject [POLL] ACEU Date and give the
> two options like:
>
> ACEU happens best on:
> [] 6-8 November (clashing with WJAX)
> [] 20-22 November (clashing with thanksgiving in the US)
>

Yes, nobody will come from USA for sure, if the dates are moved to 20-22
November.
I will be a very 'un-happy camper' as we say, since I plan to attend.


>
> The question is were to send it. I might sense the this mailinglist is
> the best place, because everybody interested in the event probably
> reads it...
>
> Cheers
>
>
> > Best regards,
> > Paul
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nóirín Plunkett [mailto:noirin@apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 6:55 PM
> > To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon's EU 2012 and NA 2013 - save the dates and get
> involved!
> >
> > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> > <nour.mohammad@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Noirin
> >>
> >
> >> Yes the we *might* loose some percentage of German speaking people who
> will
> >> attend W-JAX but what is the probability of them also attending
> ApacheCon
> >> EU ?
> >
> > People who are just curious about us will probably not come to
> > ApacheCon two weeks after W-JAX, sure. But honestly, people who only
> > get to go to one conference a year have probably blown that budget on
> > Berlin Buzzwords already :-)
> >
> > The people I'm concerned with are our EU-based committers,
> > proto-members and members, who have shown in the past a huge desire
> > for an EU conference. These people are prepared to put in a
> > sometimes-surprising amount of effort to get to ACEU--witness Mark in
> > this thread saying he'll try to attend parts of both even if they're
> > the same week.
> >
> > We should make it possible for those people to attend, even at the
> > cost of not having US folks. Otherwise we're kidding ourselves that
> > this is an EU show.
> >
> > Noirin
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.grobmeier.de
> https://www.timeandbill.de
>

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