Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-apachecon-discuss-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-apachecon-discuss-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2912C48DE for ; Wed, 25 May 2011 22:20:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25403 invoked by uid 500); 25 May 2011 22:20:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-apachecon-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 25374 invoked by uid 500); 25 May 2011 22:20:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact apachecon-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list apachecon-discuss@apache.org Delivered-To: moderator for apachecon-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 76844 invoked by uid 99); 25 May 2011 18:03:40 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=10 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Message-ID: <4DDD4426.9070201@rowe-clan.net> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 13:02:14 -0500 From: "William A. Rowe Jr." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: apachecon-discuss@apache.org Subject: Re: How public is public? References: <4DD77302.2040802@apache.org> <4DDA795F.7030502@rowe-clan.net> <4DDA870C.8030203@apache.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 5/25/2011 12:19 PM, Nick Burch wrote: > > One question though is on approval for events - where would this happen? Especially for > small events that are seeking a budget, should that be on the open list or something like > concom@? Draft submitted via wiki, details drilled down on the open list. The voting itself and confidential concerns can obviously be taken up by concom-internal... but the results disclosed on the public list. Heck, votes could even be tallied on the wiki, sparing both lists +1 noise. > I'm torn here, I'm not sure about doing that on an open list (in the way that > lots of PMCs do committer votes in private). However, most proposals change slightly and > get some good feedback in the approval step, and that feels to me like the > feedback/comment bits should be on the list that the proposal is worked up on. Hmm... Yes, the goal should be as much discussion on the public list as possible. Only issues involving people and internal concom mechanics (moving budget moneys around etc) should be taken to the private list.