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From Benson Margulies <>
Subject Re: Welcome to
Date Thu, 04 Nov 2010 00:10:55 GMT
His use of the words 'professional' and 'spam' was a direct insult, I
gave it the least offensive interpretation I could think of.

The fact remains that the individual ws components cannot stand on
their own as ASF projects. So they have to work together. That include
reading a certain amount of email about the overall infrastructure.

If I am wrong, and XML-RPC can muster it's own viable community of
active contributors, I will be happy to vote +1 for a tlp with its own
mailing lists.

as of now, however , the board's direction is to eliminate
subprojects. I am perfectly prepared to read any amount of XML-RPC
email and vote as needed for its releases, and I expect XML-RPC people
to do the same for axiom, xmlschema, and the rest.

web sites are a required part of the job of a pmc. if you want to read
the dev list of a pmc, you are going to see email on that subject
unless you set up some filters.

I am sorry to be harsh, but I won't accept being labelled a spammer
for doing the necessary work of this pmc.

On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Jochen Wiedmann <> wrote:

> Benson,
> Lars is a long time contributor. In other words, he was obviously
> interested in the dev list of XML-RPC, *not* in the users list. (Which
> didn't exist, btw.) Therefore, I think that your reply is missing his
> point.
> Jochen
> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
>> Lars,
>> This is a dev list for an Apache project that hosts several small
>> modules. There are not enough developers involved in any one of the
>> individual projects to support independent mailing lists. No one here
>> is 'professional'. We are all volunteers. If you are not interested in
>> our internal developmental deliberations, then you are welcome to
>> stick to the user list, which will be much lighter in traffic.
>> Best Regards
>> Benson Margulies
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Lars Schnoor <> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> I originally signed up for the XML-RPC mailing list because that was the
>>> project that was and still is interesting to me. In the last couple of days
>>> however I have been bombarded with SPAM from all kinds of Apache projects
>>> that I am not interested in at all. At some point someone asked if it was a
>>> mistake to merge the Apache mailing lists and a couple of people replied
>>> that they actually  think that it indeed was a big mistake and that was it,
>>> no action whatsoever.
>>> So my question is very simple, is there some professional person that can
>>> see that it was a very bad idea to merge the mailing lists and is willing to
>>> undo this mistake, or do we people that don't what our mailboxes filled-up
>>> with unrelated SPAM, have to unsubscribe?
>>> And Lawrence, was there any point in your message asking if it was a
>>> mistake?
>>> Lars
>>> On 23-10-2010 03:38, Daniel Kulp wrote:
>>>> The lists should now all be merged into just dev@ and users@.   Thus,
>>>> welcome
>>>> to the new "combined" WS community!
>>>> We left the Muse lists alone for right now.  Did we reach a concensus to
>>>> archive Muse?  I wasn't 100% possitive so we left those alone for right
>>>> now.
> --
> I Am What I Am And That's All What I Yam (Popeye)

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