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From ant elder <>
Subject Re: Remove Axis2 stuff from WS site.....
Date Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:13:51 GMT
I agree with the sentiment of Sanjiva's message, the WS project
wouldn't exist without all the work and projects from the past and i
don't see it would hurt to remember and recognize that, i.e. pay
homage too them rather than cleanse them from the website. The history
page sounds good, and whats the harm in also everywhere the existing
WS sub projects get mentioned to also mention the ones that have moved
out or been retired.


On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Glen Daniels <> wrote:
> <meta>
> Can we please drop the tone of this discussion?  While there are certainly
> some (maybe many) that believe ad-hominems, flaming, and grousing are "The
> Apache Way", they don't fit well in my personal view of same.
> Sanjiva, I'm looking at you here.  I don't know if you had too much coffee
> today or what, but please take it down a notch? :)
> </meta>
> I don't think it's at all unreasonable for folks in the WS community to want
> things clean and correct - after all, that's sort of the main thrust we've
> been trying to execute on in the past few months with cleaning up the
> projects, the PMC list, etc.  10 months is plenty long for a project to move
> itself - most graduated incubator projects are out and set up as TLPs within
> a month or two.  On the other hand, of course people are busy and website
> work isn't as glamorous as new plugin APIs. :)  So let's please try to get
> some actual cooperative work happening here and focus on what needs doing
> rather than who's asking.
> Thanks,
> --Glen
> On 10/25/2010 10:47 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Daniel Kulp <
>> <>> wrote:
>>     It's been 10 MONTHS!?!   I think that's been more than an adequate amount
>>     time for the Axis project to actually finish their job of moving to a TLP.
>>     You cannot tell me that in 10 months of time, not one person was able to copy
>>     the content over (or update poms and do a site:deploy or whatever you guys
>>     for web content).
>> I noticed that <> does not say a WORD about
>> Axis after you/Benson worked it over. Do you think that's reasonable??! That
>> is SOOO not the Apache Way, especially coming from two ASF Members.
>> Yes we should've moved over. We haven't. In the meantime, ignore the
>> directory and continue to update the Web site ignoring all history.
>> I will find time to go edit "your" site one of these days and put back some
>> history and context into this site. It is not your site or mine; its ours and
>> I damned well plan to claim back the rightful place Axis has in this project!
>> You cannot just go on as if it never existed :) .. however much you may wish
>> for that to be the case.
>> Sanjiva.
>> --
>> Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
>> Founder, Director & Chief Scientist; Lanka Software Foundation;
>> Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2;
>> Founder & Director; Thinkcube Systems;
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation;
>> Member; Sahana Software Foundation;
>> Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;
>> Blog:

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