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From Sanjiva Weerawarana <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Axis2 as TLP
Date Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:32:30 GMT
So Glen, if we're talking about a new TLP what are the proposed components 
under it? What will remain in the ws TLP because they don't have enough 
ammo to be a TLP?


Glen Daniels wrote:
> Hi dims, all:
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>> For a few years now, there is a growing consensus at the board level
>> that a small focused PMC that directly reports to the board is better
>> than a huge umbrella PMCs. two umbrella PMC's have already made
>> transitions including XML and Jakarta.
> +1.  As PMC chair, I've definitely had a challenging time keeping up 
> with everything going on in all the subprojects, and from a purely 
> practical point of view, the board reports each quarter are pretty darn 
> long.
>> One reason is that they have found that a small focused PMC/committer
>> set takes better care of the code, web site, releases, legal issues
>> and basic oversight of day to day workings of a PMC better than a huge
>> umbrella PMC. For example, personally i think Synapse has thrived
>> after it left the fold.
> +1
>> Take a look at our web site(s), take a look at our release
>> schedules(s) - for all projects, take a look at our bug tracker(s).
>> Does anyone see that we are doing an excellent job?
> Point taken.
>> We need to gather momentum, going TLP is an excellent way to do that.
>> A small focused team that is working on a single goal of getting a
>> good set of Axis2 related projects going is i think the right way to
>> go. I think the Axis2 eco system will do better when we go TLP.
> I agree.
>> Personally, I'd really like to get all of us committed, willing and
>> able to contribute in a much more coordinated fashion then we are
>> today. We don't hang out on IRC, no weekly chats, not much forward
>> looking discussions, not much enthusiasm or cooperation anymore from
>> looking at the mailing lists. I am trying to see if we can jumpstart
>> that as well with this proposal.
> Well said!  This was an excellent note, dims.
> I also very much believe that an Axis2 TLP will help get us focused on 
> moving forward.
>> fwiw, Juddi and xmlrpc do not have sufficient people on board to go
>> TLP as of this moment. Yes, we should try harder to get more people
>> involved there or we end up moth-balling them.
> Well, yeah - they're certainly not TLP-capable, but as they're already 
> subprojects I'd like to put off the decision to moth-ball them for a 
> while as long as there is at least one person dedicated to working on 
> them... hence the proposal to keep these guys under WS.
> Thanks,
> --Glen
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Sanjiva Weerawarana, Ph.D.
Founder & Director; Lanka Software Foundation;
Founder, Chairman & CEO; WSO2, Inc.;
Member; Apache Software Foundation;
Visiting Lecturer; University of Moratuwa;


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