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From: "Subbiah" <donsubbu@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: XML and velocity
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2004 23:13:27 -0600
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>If you put the DOM document itself in the Context, 
> the template designers will have to know how to use DOM.  But 
> if you extract all the data needed in java, and put them in 
> the Context in a more user-friendly fashion

I see your convincing point here. Thank you. 

In my particluar hase I though abt creating an obejct and sending it to the
context but the XML was generated from an object suing castor at some other
point in the app and I did not want to convert it into an object again.

What is the best way of solving such a problem. 
I wanted to use Xpath style references in my velocity but could not get it
to work

Any directions here.

Thanks for your replies though !!! 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shinobu Kawai [mailto:shinobu.kawai@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 11:02 PM
> To: Velocity Users List
> Subject: Re: XML and velocity
> 
> 
> Hi Subbiah,
> 
> > My generic question on VELOCITY is this.
> > 1.  I see velocity very similar to adding sessions in servlets and 
> > accessing them  in the jsp pages. Is this correct ?
> 
> In a way, yes.  In Velocity, you put stuff in the Context, 
> and then you can access them from the template.  In addition 
> to that you have access to some easy-to-use directives.  :)
>     http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/user-guide.html#Directives
> 
> > 2. I am using VELOCITY to generate templates for certain 
> messages that 
> > will be filled at run time. The input is XML and output is 
> any file. 
> > We use velocity because, the client can change the template anytime 
> > his fomat changes, but after using velocity [I might be 
> wrong] I feel 
> > he still has to know the details of the object or java 
> classes to use 
> > velocity , for example I use DOM parser, then the client 
> has to know 
> > what methods are there to make a change in the 
> template.This is like 
> > changing the source code of the generator one thing he need 
> do is rebuild.
> > 
> > Is this the advantage that velocity provides or are that 
> more that my 
> > short sightedness prevenst me from seeing [I am sure there are]
> 
> VTL itself is a very simple language.  The problem here is 
> that you aren't being friendly to the template designers (the 
> client).  If you put the DOM document itself in the Context, 
> the template designers will have to know how to use DOM.  But 
> if you extract all the data needed in java, and put them in 
> the Context in a more user-friendly fashion (like custom 
> JavaBeans), the only things the template designers need to 
> know are the reference names of the information plus maybe 
> some custom methods for doing special things.
> 
> Good luck with Velocity!  ;)
> 
> Best regards,
> -- Shinobu Kawai
> 
> --
> Shinobu Kawai <shinobu.kawai@gmail.com >
> 
> 
> 
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