Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
> sgtmcd <sgtmcd@sgtmcd.com> writes:
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>
>>It is highly recommended in many j2ee/spring framework
>>documents/books.
>
>
> This is the real reason for Mr. Revusky for popping up from time to
> time on various ASF lists.
>
> No ASF developer (at least as far as I can remember) has ever spread
> vitriol over the FreeMarker project. Quite the contrary, a lot of ASF
> people hold the project in high regard and consider it a fine piece of
> software (personally, I do).
>
> However, the same can unfortunately not be said in the opposite
> direction. Mr. Revusky has left out no opportunity to belittle
> projects that he considers his "competition" or "opposition" or even
> "enemies".
>
> Personally, I don't care. This will be my only posting in this
> thread. For me, "rough concensus and running code" are the most
> important thing. Not some (imaginary) political view or
> project-bashing.
>
> The point that Mr. Revusky consistently fails to get is, that all the
> time projects don't get chosen because of a feature list or a "mine is
> better than yours" comparisation.
>
> But for other, non obvious reasons. This is how belittled projects
> like Jakarta Velocity and Microsoft Windows survive. There is no
> cabal.
>
> Regards
> Henning
The above is all a bunch of irrelevant blather, Henning. The only point
I was making in response to your post was that your post was untruthful.
Period.
When you stated that the Velocity project was alive and well and always
had been, you were stating a falsehood. Knowingly.
When you claimed that the reason patches were not accepted was because
of the high standards of Velocity developers, this was also not true.
It is because nobody was reviewing the patches. I think you know this also.
You accuse me of bashing projects and so on, but what purpose does it
serve to claim that a project is alive and healthy when it is not?
If I put up code that I dashed off in a hurry in a single day and is
untested, should I claim that said code is "production/stable"? If
somebody who knows the actual state of the code differs with that
description, are they guilty of "project-bashing"?
If they are, then yes, I was project-bashing. However, that bothers me
little. The fact remains that I was telling the truth and you were not.
>
> (If you ask now, why I don't work actively on the FM list if I
> consider it good:
"If I ask you", you say. But I am not asking you. I have no particular
desire to see you show up on our list.
Even though FM is a decent piece of software, the
> surrounding community is incompatible with me. So I've chosen to
> remain passive.)
You are quite right, Henning. Our community and culture is completely
incompatible with individuals such as yourself.
Jonathan Revusky
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lead developer, FreeMarker project http://freemarker.org
Velocity-FreeMarker comparison page: http://freemarker.org/fmVsVel.html
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