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From Simon Nash <n...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Tracking Tuscany extensions, was: Distribution zips and what they contain, was: SCA runtimes
Date Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:22:18 GMT
ant elder wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 8:52 AM, ant elder <ant.elder@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ant.elder@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mike Edwards
>     <mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com
>     <mailto:mike.edwards.inglenook@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     <snip>
> 
> 
>         b) A variety of functional components, that represent sets of
>         coherent functions.
> 
>           Each consists of a series of the basic modules, aggregated
>         together.
>           Their function in life is to assist developers of applications
>         that embed some level of
>           Tuscany capability (including tools, Tuscany itself and so on)
> 
>           These are probably not agreed by folk today - we have work to
>         do here to define these.
>           You demonstrate the problem in your example above - you want
>         "Basic Web Services" separate from
>           "Web Services Security" - but for an end user, the step from
>         using the first to using the
>           second is a trivial addition of @required="integrity" to the SCDL.
> 
>           Anyone care to have a go at defining these compoennts?
> 
> 
>     Thats taking a different tack to the launcher appraoch but maybe we
>     need both and this approach would be easier for embedders so ok to
>     move things long I'll try an initial stab at it:
> 
>     1) tuscany-scdl4j
> 
>     An aggregated jar containing _all_ the model and stax processor
>     classes which can be used by tools etc for for reading/writing scdl
>     without booting a runtime. It includes all the extension classes as
>     they generally don't drag in any other dependencies so its not
>     really any problem to incude them. The only required dependency
>     would be on stax, maybe some optional dependencies like wsdl4j as
>     the wsdl extension may need that. Not sure if any of the
>     contribution modules should be included, would have to investigate
>     that a bit.
> 
>     2)  tuscany-runtime
>     An aggregated jar containing the minimum modules to start a runtime
>     able to run something like the simple calculator sample. Has
>     dependencies on tuscany-scdl4j and minimal other jars -
>     geronimo-commonj_1.1_spec, cglib, jaxb etc.
> 
>     3) tuscany-api
>     An aggregated jar containing everything tuscany/sca applications
>     might need to compile - sca-api, SCADomain class from host-embedded,
>     node2-api, jsp taglib etc. Has no  external dependencies.
> 
>     4) Single jars for all the binding and implementation type
>     extensions which add the capability to the minimal tuscany-runtime.
>     We're already starting to get these with the way extensions are
>     being structured nowadays - binding-jsonrpc-runtime,
>     binding-ejb-runtime, implementation-widget-runtime etc.
> 
>     The above would make life for embedders much easier like the
>     Tuscany-Geronimo integration code (or JBoss when they come along)
>     less likely to break over releases as we add remove modules.
> 
>        ...ant
> 
> 
> No comments on this after a couple of weeks so I'll go start trying it.
> 
>    ...ant
 >
Actually I did comment on this, and I updated the two Wiki pages that
Haleh created.  See the post on this thread that I sent on 24 June at
10:43 am my time.  It appears that this post does not appear in
markmail for some reason.

   Simon


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