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From "Fieck, Brennan" <>
Subject Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PROPOSAL] Move from the IRC to Slack
Date Wed, 15 May 2019 15:22:04 GMT
Dang, another win for proprietary software :(

From: Alan Carroll <>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:14 AM
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PROPOSAL] Move from the IRC to Slack

The problem is, we're moving to slack because of the ASF, not as a project level decision.
If we're not going to be consistent with the ASF as a whole, I'd prefer staying on IRC.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:50 AM Fieck, Brennan <<>>
I'd just like to throw out there as a FOSS alternative to Slack
that (probably) supports all of the same things desired of from Slack.
Support for voice chat is a little spotty, but I don't think anyone cares for
this project since likely no one would even want to use that feature of Slack
anyway. Plus it supports REAL markdown formatting :P

Just a suggestion.
From: Steven R. Feltner <<>>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2019 10:28 AM
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PROPOSAL] Move from the IRC to Slack

On 5/12/19, 11:49 AM, "Leif Hedstrom" <<>>
>    > On May 12, 2019, at 09:23, Jan Schaumann <<>>
>   >
>    > Leif Hedstrom <<>> wrote:
>    >
>    >> You think it?s a serious burden to send an email to
>    >> e.g. users@ or dev@ and ask for an invite?
>    >
>    > For people who are part of the community already, this
>    > isn't an issue, but I do believe that this raises the
>    > barrier to entry for newcomers.  As a data point, _I_
>    > wouldn't bother requesting an invite.  Not that I am
>    > anything but a very, very sleepy lurker here, but I
>    > suppose that's my point - I won't get more engaged if
>    > I have to sign up for anything.
>    >
>    > For many open source projects, if I can't quickly get
>    > in touch with developers without having to sign up for
>    > anything, I'll simply not reach out, won't report
>    > issues nor participate in the community.
>    Well, you still have to register to be on the mailing lists or on Github to file issues.
Again, this has not changed. Maybe people got an >impression that IRC is/was the official
channel for community and developer interaction, or filing issues? If so, I'm sorry if we
mislead >everyone, but that was never the case, and will never be the case with Slack either.
Moving to the official ASF slack workspace, as >proposed by Bryan, seemed like the obvious
thing to do,  being supported by the ASF and the infra team.
>    We have the option to not use IRC or Slack if that's preferable, and make it clear
that Github Issues/PRs and mailing list are the >official communication channels. I'm ok
with that as well.
>    Cheers,
>    - Leif

On another OS project I keep tabs on, they use a bot that allows you to be in either Slack
or irc.  Messages are rebroadcast between both social channels.

Would it be possible to implement something like this during a transition phase until most
everyone is used to using slack, and even then leave the irc channel open so any newcomers
could still post a question?  Change the irc channel topic to something along the lines of
"You can now find us in slack...".


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