Whats is not supported by openjpa? El 20/10/2013 14:22, "Romain Manni-Bucau" escribió: > Openjpa clearly doesnt support today...and no Mark it can or not work by > spec... > Le 20 oct. 2013 18:04, "José Luis Cetina" a écrit : > > > Responses inline. > > > > El 20/10/2013 06:51, "Mark Struberg" escribió: > > > > > > Romain, that's nowhere in the spec. Thus it must work. Really! > > > > If this is true, what im doing wrong? Or this is openjpa or tomee issue? > > > > > > > > The only thing which is specified to be immutable are lists returned by > > query.getResultList. > > > That's the reason why you should not back a sortable h:dataTable by a > > list you get from JPA directly. > > > All other stuff is perfectly mutable. > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau > > > >To: users@tomee.apache.org > > > >Sent: Sunday, 20 October 2013, 10:00 > > > >Subject: Re: Entity cant be refreshed with new list values > > > > > > > > > > > >Not really. An entity handles a state which can prevent it. Nothing > > > >mandates it to work > > > > > > > >Le 20 oct. 2013 09:50, "José Luis Cetina" a > > écrit > > : > > > > > > > >> What about using a detached entity?? The detached entity will work > > like a > > > >> DTO? > > > >> > > > >> From Real World Java EE Patterns (Adam Biem) 2009 > > > >> Problem > > > >> The origin problem statement was: “You want to transfer multiple > data > > > >> elements over a tier” > > > >> ( > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > http://java.sun.com/blueprints/corej2eepatterns/Patterns/TransferObject.html > > > >> ). > > > >> This particular problem was elegantly solved in Java EE 5 with > > detachment > > > >> of persistent entities. There is > > > >> no need for the introduction of another class just for transferring > > the > > > >> entities data. JPA entities can > > > >> implement a java.io.Serializable interface and be transferred > between > > > >> tiers, even remote ones. > > > >> CMP 2.x entities weren’t Serializable, the developer was forced to > > copy > > > >> their states to a remotely > > > >> transferable structure—the Transfer Object. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> 2013/10/19 Howard W. Smith, Jr. > > > >> > > > >> > responses below... > > > >> > > > > >> > On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Mark Struberg > > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > be careful with immediate=true. You get all sorts of nasty side > > > >> effects. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > see page 92 in > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > http://people.apache.org/~struberg/eesummit2013/Java%20EE%20Summit%20-%20pitfalls%20in%20EE.pdf > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I definitely agree and understand about immediate=true, and guess > > what, i > > > >> > found it very useful to disable validation as instructed on page > 92 > > of > > > >> the > > > >> > PDF file. > > > >> > > > > >> > clarification of my use/understanding: > > > >> > > > > >> > i am 'not' using immediate=true, when i user is to select a row on > > > >> > datatable, and then click commandbutton/link/menuitem, which does > a > > POST > > > >> of > > > >> > the selected row on the datatable, and bean uses the selected row > to > > > >> > prepare the UI for the next view that is 'rendered' via > > > >> > ui:include=#{bean.page}. see below and keep reading, please. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.prepareCreate()}" > > > >> > > > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}"/> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.prepareEdit()}" > > > >> > > > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}"/> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.prepareView()}" > > > >> > > > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}"/> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.copySelectedRows()}" > > > >> > > > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}"/> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.confirmDeleteSelectedRows()}" > > > >> > > > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}"/> > > > >> > > > > >> > but, for a readonly page that has commandbutton/links to render a > > new > > > >> view, > > > >> > based on the current @Entity that is held in the JSF > controller/bean > > > >> class, > > > >> > i use immediate=true without issue and I think it fits/meets the > > > >> > occasion/requirement, because there is no need to do validation > > phase or > > > >> > update model values. see below. :) > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> immediate="true" > > > >> > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}" > > > >> > > > > >> > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.prepareList()}"/> > > > >> > > > >> > immediate="true" > > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}" > > > >> > > > > >> > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.confirmDelete()}"/> > > > >> > > > >> > immediate="true" > > update="#{pf_pointOfContactController.getAjaxUpdate()}" > > > >> > > > > >> > actionListener="#{pf_pointOfContactController.prepareEdit()}"/> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> *SCJA. José Luis Cetina* > > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >