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From Iago Alonso Alonso <infia...@udc.es>
Subject Re: Release calendar of Apache Tomcat versions
Date Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:15:55 GMT
Thanks you everyone for answer, It has been helpful.

Regards.

----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Mark Thomas" <markt@apache.org>
Para: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Enviados: Viernes, 21 de Noviembre 2014 11:07:47
Asunto: Re: Release calendar of Apache Tomcat versions

On 20/11/2014 17:52, jieryn wrote:
> I guess it depends on how you view what a "release" is.

"Release" has a very specific definition at the ASF. [1]

> it's not like the tags are changed after the fact,

Tags can change. For example, if I tag 8.0.x/trunk to do a release and
discover a problem while building the release then I'll drop the tag,
fix the problem and re-tag. The informal rule we follow for when that is
OK is that as long as nothing built from the tag has made made available
to anyone (including the dev@ list) then it is OK.

Once something has been made available (e.g. for voting), the tag should
not change (although in some projects that have a different release
process it might get renamed).

> a new version is just cut for Apache Tomcat.
> The artifacts are still uploaded to a staging maven repository.

That is not a release.

> they are available for testing.

They are but at this point they have not been formally released.

> Finally, the dates actually do match up pretty closely, any variance
> is probably just the voting period.

Correct.

The 'official' release date is that date that the result of the release
vote is posted to the dev list (using the UTC time zone) assuming, of
course, that the release vote passed.

The biggest issue with using the tags is that not all of them were released.

For the record, I'm fairly sure some of the dates in the change log
might are a day or two out.

Mark


[1] http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#what

> 
> bash$ svn cat http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/tc8.0.x/trunk/webapps/docs/changelog.xml
> | grep 'section name=\"Tomcat '
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.16 (markt)">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.15 (markt)" rtext="2014-11-07">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.14 (markt)" rtext="2014-09-29">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.13 (markt)" rtext="not released">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.12 (markt)" rtext="2014-09-03">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.11 (markt)" rtext="2014-08-22">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.10 (markt)" rtext="not released">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.9 (markt)" rtext="2014-06-24">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.8 (markt)" rtext="beta, 2014-05-21">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.7 (markt)" rtext="not released">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.6 (markt)" rtext="not released">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.5 (markt)" rtext="beta, 2014-03-27">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.4 (markt)" rtext="not released">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.3 (markt)" rtext="beta, 2014-02-11">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.2 (markt)" rtext="not released">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.1 (markt)" rtext="beta, 2014-02-02">
> <section name="Tomcat 8.0.0 (markt)" rtext="not released">
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Mark Thomas <markt@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 20/11/2014 17:52, jieryn wrote:
>>> Wow, all I've seen are examples that are likely the least efficient
>>> way to do things. Just use the version control system itself:
>>
>> Tag date != release date.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>>
>>> bash$ svn ls -v http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat/tc8.0.x/tags/
>>> 1562629 markt                 Jan 29  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_0/
>>> 1562630 markt                 Jan 29  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_1/
>>> 1609435 markt                 Jul 10 06:22 TOMCAT_8_0_10/
>>> 1618261 markt                 Aug 15 15:12 TOMCAT_8_0_11/
>>> 1621315 markt                 Aug 29 10:38 TOMCAT_8_0_12/
>>> 1627396 markt                 Sep 24 15:15 TOMCAT_8_0_13/
>>> 1627408 markt                 Sep 24 15:59 TOMCAT_8_0_14/
>>> 1636170 markt                 Nov 02 14:23 TOMCAT_8_0_15/
>>> 1565426 markt                 Feb 06  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_2/
>>> 1565729 markt                 Feb 07  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_3/
>>> 1579364 markt                 Mar 19  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_4/
>>> 1580930 markt                 Mar 24  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_5/
>>> 1594516 markt                 May 14  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_6/
>>> 1594945 markt                 May 15  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_7/
>>> 1595294 markt                 May 16  2014 TOMCAT_8_0_8/
>>> 1603862 markt                 Jun 19 08:42 TOMCAT_8_0_9/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 7:00 AM, Iago Alonso Alonso <infiaa00@udc.es> wrote:
>>>> I want to know where I can find the release calendar of the Apache Tomcat
versions in order to do an analysis of the project. I have been searching in the Wiki, Google,
etc but I don't found anything by the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
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