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From "Howard W. Smith, Jr." <smithh032...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [OT] RE: Cannot connect from outside using Tomcat 7/APR/SSL on AWS Windows system
Date Fri, 24 Jan 2014 17:13:05 GMT
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Christopher Schultz <
chris@christopherschultz.net> wrote:

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> Howard,
>
> On 1/23/14, 11:31 PM, Howard W. Smith, Jr. wrote:
> > Instead of downloading Linux and trying it out, on my own, I just
> > decided to stay with Windows. it just works (for me).
>
> I'm honestly glad to hear that you are having a good experience with it.
>
> Do you manage a lot of machines, or just one or two?


Just 2 servers for now.


> Until recently,
> the *NIX world didn't have great (maybe just inexpensive/free)
> cluster-management utilities like Puppet. I believe Windows had that
> capability (e.g. Tivoli) much earlier, though I think it was initially
> aimed at administering fleets of workstations, not servers. Extending
> that capability to manage servers was probably trivial.
>
> >> I hope things have changed, but everyone I ever knew that ran
> >> Windows Server OSs in production had scheduled rolling-reboots of
> >> their servers because things just tended to "work" when they did
> >> that. Otherwise, stuff would fail with some regularity (like
> >> every 3 days). It's not clear to be whether restarting the OS or
> >> restarting the application did the trick -- as we all know, most
> >> Tomcat problems are actually webapp problems. In all my time
> >> working with Linux servers, I've never had to resort to such
> >> foolishness, nor has anyone else I have known. I've had servers
> >> running for over a year without a reboot. (They usually get a
> >> reboot for certain software upgrades, so years-running servers
> >> don't really exist... or shouldn't).
> >
> >
> > I have seen posts on this list about people experiencing issues
> > with Windows updates and their tomcat/database not starting or
> > shutting down successfully (or as expected)... i do not experience
> > these things...at all. Yes, I did send several emails to the tomee
> > list, asking why did my tomee/tomcat server restart at night around
> > 3am. I, then, learned it was the automatic Windows updates that I
> > configured. So, after I learned that it was the automatic updates
> > and that my app shutdown properly and restarted automatically
> > (since I configured the tomcat/tomee service to start,
> > automatically on/after boot), and no database corruption and no
> > errors in the log. My Java EE app and tomcat/tomee shuts down and
> > restarts gracefully inspite/through-it all.
>
> Great! I wish you the best of luck.
>

Thanks. At the moment, I don't have a need for cluster management, because
the app performs really well, but I'm hoping to refactor the app (quite) a
bit, so I can market the app to other businesses. After all that, i may
need to consider cluster management, more servers etc.

Also, some day, I may consider migrating to Linux. On the to-do list when I
have bandwidth to do so.


>
> - -chris
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