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From "Hyve" <>
Subject RE: User cannot edit wiki pages
Date Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:41 GMT

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Schultz [] 
Sent: 21 October 2013 00:14
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: User cannot edit wiki pages

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On 10/18/13 4:29 PM, Info wrote:
> "On 17/10/2013 14:39, Info wrote:
>> I am new to your user list, why don’t you help me out like the others 
>> instead of rudely patronising me.
> I asked you politely not to hijack threads and ignored that request.
> Other list members have responded politely to your questions and you 
> have repeatedly ignored them.
> You have also been asked not to top-post and you continue to do so.
> This list tends to be tolerant of folks that make mistakes providing 
> that folks listen when their mistakes are pointed out.
> Unfortunately - as in this case - the polite requests are ignored and 
> the blunt approach is necessary in order for the message to get 
> through. If you don't like having such messages directed at you, the 
> solution is simple. Take heed to the polite advice the first time 
> around.
> Mark"
> Hey Mark,
> Thanks for your patience. I've never heard of "top posting" and the 
> concept of it being bad, most modern email clients actually force you 
> to top post so its habit.

No, they don't. Note that Gmail isn't a real mail client.

> Why don’t you guys use a forum like PHPBB, surely that would stop 
> these frustrations?

"Because forums suck. Digests don't work. You can't batch-download updates. You have to login
to interact. Email is simply easier for ...
just about everything. I can use my smart phone for this mailing list without any special
software, and it's okay if my browser's javascript engine sucks because I'm not using it.
If you like nntp better, you can use a mail-to-news gateway.

In general, the ASF supports mailing lists for communication and not forums for the above
and many other reasons.

(Honestly, if we were to move to a "forum" format, I'd lobby for using something more like
Stack Exchange since it's a great platform and rewards members of the community for submitting
useful answers.)

- -chris


OK, let me know if you guys would like to try out a forum or something like " Stack Exchange
"  hosted as we can happily donate a server to the cause.

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