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From "Howard W. Smith, Jr." <>
Subject Re: Help in diagnosing server unresponsiveness
Date Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:20:46 GMT
I definitely do not want to take/lead away from Edson and Mark's
recommendations and responses related to linux, but as someone that has
found success with his first-and-only JAVA/JSF web application, running on
Windows Server 2003 32-bit 4GB, and now Windows Server 2008 R2 64-bit 32GB
RAM (preparing for future development), one thing I love is ...debugging,
as that has been my major strength throughout my (almost 20 year) career,
prior to learning java via (Oracle's) java ee 6 tutorial (summer 2011) and
beginning java development immediately afterwards. Just wanted to share
that tidbit, for any/all following my responses from this point on... as
Edson mentioned earlier, I am definitely 'junior' java developer, now, that
is loving java/jsf, and learning so much by listening in on topics in this
mail list. :)

Anyway, this CPU spike reminds me of when I migrated from JSF-managed-beans
to CDI-managed-beans and I experienced the cyclic references that is an
absolute no-no with CDI, and even recently, add some new code to the app,
which resulted in the same...cyclic reference between 2 existing CDI
@SessionScoped beans. I had to resolve that on both occasions by a patch
which included use/reference of Boolean variable, which was initialized in
@Postconstruct, of course.

Is it possible that your app has CDI involved and any cyclic
references...that could be causing this CPU spike?

On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Zoran Avtarovski

> Hi Howard,
> The move to linux was part of a move in-house for our client as the web
> services are only accessible behind the firewall.
> My gut feeling is that the issue isn't related to the WS as they run on a
> scheduled task 3 times a day. I think the issue lies in our app and
> struggling with not being able to see exactly what's happening during the
> crash. JavaMelody provides some insight but just not enough.
> I'm quite happy to post the charts for others to see. Just not sure what
> the best way to do it is.
> Z.
> On 3/02/13 3:11 PM, "Howard W. Smith, Jr." <> wrote:
> >I know this is asking for too much or might be impossible to do but
> >process
> >of elimination.. If it was possible to eliminate or prevent web services
> >from executing or being accessed, and no spikes occur, then problem is
> >there. I think you said earlier that system was stable on Windows and
> >migration to Linux was driven by the web services requirement. I wonder
> >what kind of processing in those web services which may be causing this. A
> >lot of database access, even more database access now because of web
> >services? Did some developer try to add a manual call to gc, somewhere in
> >the app to free resources. Maybe you can poll any / all developers or
> >search code accordingly. Does the spike occur at certain time of day,
> >maybe
> >some code executed on schedule, or does it occur after certain activity
> >occur in the app either by endusers or background processing?
> >
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