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Ok.  You've dealt with it a lot more than I have.  I had thought we 
started with it in the late 90's, but I guess I might be wrong on that; 
I didn't go back and look anything up.  The transaction and restart 
stats are accurate, though...


On 9/5/2012 6:22 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> David,
>
> On 9/5/12 3:43 PM, David kerber wrote:
>> On 9/5/2012 3:29 PM, PJ Delsh wrote:
>>> Chris and Tim, When we had Tomcat issues, every Tomcat
>>> professional we spoke to told us to drop Windows and move to
>>> Linux ASAP.  We were told that Tomcat is more stable and less
>>> sensitive on Linux, and there are far better troubleshooting
>>> tools on Linux than there are for Windows. If this is inaccurate,
>>> then Tomcat consulting companies are spreading misinformation.
>>> -PJ
>>
>> They're not spreading misinfomation, they're just pushing people
>> to where they want them to go for their own purposes.  We have been
>> running TC apps on windows for about 15 years (since TC 4.x), with
>> some of them taking more than 4 million transactions per day (up to
>> 100 per second during peak times), and go months between restarts.
>> And even then, those restarts are just for windows security
>> updates.
>
> 15 years is a stretch even for TC4. In 1999, Sun donated the code to
> the ASF which was merged with the existing Apache JServ product. The
> name "Apache Tomcat" didn't exist until the donation of code from Sun.
>
> 15 years ago (1997), it was called Apache JServ and it was very
> immature. It took until 1999 for it to be released as 1.0. I remember
> helping evaluate Apache JServ versus Sun's Servlet Server (can't
> remember what it was called at the time -- definitely not "Tomcat")
> and coming to the conclusion that JServ was unstable and non-compliant
> (and a pain to set up, because it required a web server in front!).
>
> - -chris
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