Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B69B09645 for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 77882 invoked by uid 500); 20 Dec 2011 20:25:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 77836 invoked by uid 500); 20 Dec 2011 20:25:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list users@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 77827 invoked by uid 99); 20 Dec 2011 20:25:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:25:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [76.96.62.80] (HELO qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.62.80) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:25:27 +0000 Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BXTg1i0051ZXKqc58YR7cM; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:25:07 +0000 Received: from Christophers-MacBook-Pro.local ([69.143.109.145]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id BYR71i00U38FjT13hYR7HP; Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:25:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4EF0EF21.3050802@christopherschultz.net> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:25:05 -0500 From: Christopher Schultz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Can't get APR running w/ Tomcat 6.0.33 (Debian) References: <4EF0BFDA.1060107@ice-sa.com> <4EF0C8EF.2020709@ice-sa.com> <4EF0D752.8040606@christopherschultz.net> <4EF0EBB2.2030408@ice-sa.com> In-Reply-To: <4EF0EBB2.2030408@ice-sa.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 André, On 12/20/11 3:10 PM, André Warnier wrote: > > Maybe you could just connect it to the stock market ? That's an interesting academic question: would "the stock market" provide enough entropy? On the one hand, everything is essentially random, but if you look at trends across, say, all stocks of a particular type (say, tech stocks), their value curves pretty much match each other. The same can be said for tracking-funds like DJIA, Nikkei, NASDAQ, etc... when one goes up they all go up. Also, barring big crashes, the trend is that all values go up (at least in numeric value) over time. Now, maybe one could take two similar (or, based upon my "complaint" above) figures and use the "noise" between the two (since their values are definitely not exactly the same, even if the curves look similar at a high-level) for your source of entropy. Of course, this is not practical: nobody is going to store historical stock data just for entropy, and nobody is going to query Google Finance every time their server needs to start. :) - -chris -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7w7yEACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PA0kACfXujaU7D7u5KFQd6KEOYHcTzT M6cAoKjLsqcXrqSLPUcJg8mu/eu5I5gw =2lCE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tomcat.apache.org