Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8513B8E5C for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 22:38:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76886 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2011 22:38:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 76826 invoked by uid 500); 9 Sep 2011 22:38:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list users@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 76817 invoked by uid 99); 9 Sep 2011 22:38:27 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:38:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of russ@michaels.me.uk designates 209.85.220.173 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.173] (HELO mail-vx0-f173.google.com) (209.85.220.173) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:38:22 +0000 Received: by vxj15 with SMTP id 15so1518519vxj.18 for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:38:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.180.36 with SMTP id dl4mr2611957vdc.195.1315607878853; Fri, 09 Sep 2011 15:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.156.132 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Sep 2011 15:37:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [81.174.144.178] In-Reply-To: References: <4E692A66.8000600@viviotech.net> <4E692BE1.9070105@viviotech.net> <4E692D98.2050402@viviotech.net> <4E693184.4040003@viviotech.net> <4E694748.4020009@viviotech.net> <99C8B2929B39C24493377AC7A121E21FB000C936E9@USEA-EXCH8.na.uis.unisys.com> <1315542697.37966.YahooMailNeo@web125519.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4E69B800.8040606@ice-sa.com> <4E69F966.4020903@ice-sa.com> <4E6A8BCA.1070200@ice-sa.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 23:37:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: tomcat manager not working From: Russ Michaels To: Tomcat Users List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks for your advice so far, I will be giving your suggestion a try as soon as I have a spare, the issue is not urgent right now, so i;m in no hurry. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: > no Andre, I did mean the Railo list, that was not directed at you or > anyone else here, you have been perfectly helpful so far. > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Andr=E9 Warnier wrote: >> Russ Michaels wrote: >>> >>> For some reason some of the folks on the Railo list seem to have got >>> quite aggressive toward me due to my wording in my original post where >>> I said. >> >> ... >> >> I suppose that above, you mean the Tomcat list. >> And I regret if I in particular may have sounded aggressive, that was no= t >> the purpose of my "sermon". >> >> I was only trying to explain that, this being a Tomcat list, most of the >> people may not know anything about Railo (I certainly don't), and not ha= ve >> any idea about what it does to Tomcat or its configuration files, and he= nce >> not have any initial idea what the real source of the problem could be. >> We also have no direct access to your Tomcat host, so we cannot just bro= wse >> around and try to figure out what's wrong by ourselves. >> >> In other words, we are really trying to help, but from a difficult start= ing >> point. >> We are blind and paralytic, and you are our eyes and hands. If you want = us >> to be able to help, you have to do precisely what we tell you to do, and >> tell us precisely what you see. =A0Otherwise there is no way we can figu= re it >> out, and we will have to send you back to the Railo list. (Not because w= e >> are mean or unhelpful, but because we have no clue). >> >> What we should normally tell you to do, is to install another Tomcat fro= m >> the Tomcat website, try it and see if the manager app works. =A0Then if = it >> does, let you compare /these/ two configurations and figure out the >> differences by yourself. >> But we are not going to do that quite yet because we like challenges, so >> >> We would like you to start from a point which we may know about a bit be= tter >> (a "more standard" Tomcat configuration), without asking you to undo >> everything and start clean. Then we will see if with such a configuratio= n >> the manager works (like it does in the "real standard" configuration whi= ch >> the normal Tomcat installer sets up). And then, gradually, get back to y= our >> current configuration where it /seems/ not to work. >> We are hoping to be able to spot what change makes it suddenly not work = as >> expected, or even if with this more basic configuration it does not work= . >> >> Right now : >> - we don't know which version of Tomcat you are running >> - we don't know if the Railo installer installs a full Tomcat, including= a >> manager app or not, and we don't know what configuration changes it make= s >> compared to a standard Tomcat. >> - we are supposing that when you issue your URL calls, it is from a brow= ser >> running on the same host as the one where you have Tomcat and Railo >> installed >> - we are supposing that on your host, the name "localhost" is really >> equivalent to the IP address 127.0.0.1 >> - after your 10th post or so, we have learned that you had 2 tags= in >> the server.xml, sharing apparently the same "webapps" dir. We don't real= ly >> know where that comes from (the standard Tomcat install configures just = one >> Host), not if it matters here. >> - we also know that after you ran the Railo installer, you also ran >> something else which we do not know either, and then you made some more >> changes back and forth manually to the configuration. =A0That does not c= larify >> the situation for us. >> - we do not know the top path of your Tomcat installation (thus we do no= t >> know really where the "webapps" dir is located) >> >> But >> >> - We know that you are getting an HTTP error 404 when you try to access >> "http://localhost:8888/manager/html". So we know that a Tomcat is runnin= g, >> but it is not finding that page where it expects to find it. >> >> At some point you have told us that, under your "webapps" directory, you >> have the following sub-directories : >> docs >> host-manager >> manager >> root >> >> The sub-directory "root" above should be "ROOT" uppercase. =A0It matters >> greatly, even under Windows. >> Because if it is really "root" like you wrote, then in principle the URL >> which you say is working (http://localhost:8888/index.jsp), should not b= e >> working. >> And if it is really "root", then it means that either the Railo installe= r is >> broken, or you have somehow renamed that directory, or copied it from >> somewhere else without paying attention to case. >> >> So please : >> 1) tell us the full path of the top Tomcat installation directory, amd i= ts >> version if you know it >> 2) stop Tomcat (telling us how you do that) >> 3) rename the above "webapps/root" directory to "webapps/ROOT" if necess= ary >> 4) in your (tomcat_dir)/conf/server.xml, delete or comment out the secon= d >> ... section, leaving only the Host named "localhost" >> 5) restart Tomcat (telling us how you do that) and wait 10 sec. >> 6) from a browser on the same host, access "http://localhost:8888", and = then >> redo the same again while pressing "shift" and the "reload" icon. >> If what you see is a page with a Tomcat logo and a menu on the left, the= n >> it's fine. Otherwise, tell us what page you do see. >> 7) if the page above worked fine, then click on the "Tomcat Manager" lin= k in >> that menu and tell us what happens. 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