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From Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
Subject Re: [OT] Memory Leak in Tomcat
Date Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:20:28 GMT
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André,

On 2/25/2011 10:47 AM, André Warnier wrote:
> [Thread hijacking] is more annoying, because quite a few people have their client set
> to display messages "by thread" (a hierarchical display where messages
> neatly appear under the ones they respond to, instead of just
> chronologically).  The client classifies new messages as being "part of
> a thread" using information contained in other headers within the
> message (kind of a "refers to" thing).  These headers are automatically
> added by the list server.
> So when you respond to an existing message and change the subject, for
> these people an unrelated message suddenly appears inside a discussion
> "tree" where your new message does not belong.

Worse are mail clients who think that "subject" and "thread" are
interchangeable: the thread-id in the SMTP headers is ignored and
instead the subject is used to thread things. That way, two things happen:

1. People who hijack threads can't tell and get all angry when we tell
them they hijacked the thread

2. Legitimate thread-subject-changes (such as adding [OT] or whatever)
end up showing-up in what looks like a separate thread.

> Please do [chip in].  That's the point of this list.
> Specially interventions like yours, which is civil, well-written and
> brings valuable information and insights.

Mostly everyone here will ignore most of the list-etiquette rules and
remain civil if you have something worthwhile to say. Top-posting is
only irritating when it looks like this:

Reply:

Yes, no, and maybe. There are other times this happens. 1.6. 5.something.

Original:
Does this happen all the time? Under what conditions? Are you able to
build a patched version of Tomcat in a test environment to test a fix I
have? What version of Java and Tomcat are you running?

Since Chris's post had actual content and didn't really have a
point-counterpoint feel to it, top-posting can be forgiven :)

- -chris
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