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From Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com>
Subject RE: [OT] RE: Tomcat Consultant
Date Wed, 29 Sep 2010 19:47:49 GMT

i always wondered by the big 5 billable rate started at 100 /hr
 
BTW: dont forgot your armani suit and the lamberghini!
Martin Gainty 
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> Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Tomcat Consultant
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:51:42 -0500
> From: Jeffrey.Janner@PolyDyne.com
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Fisher [mailto:dfisher@jmlafferty.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:28 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Re: [OT] RE: Tomcat Consultant
> > 
> > PL/1 was a nice break from extending FORTRAN IV with BAL (Assembler).
> > 
> > Wow real pointers and character strings!
> > 
> > I seem to recall there was a version on the Prime minicomputers - IRC
> > they had a version of the PIC OS.
> > 
> > Primos came out of the Boston area, was a son of Multics and a brother
> > OS to Unix. Wiki proves my memory fairly accurate -
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Computer
> > 
> 
> That's the system I worked on. At one point, I worked in a university environ and had
access to source. We did a few tweaks to allow better support for hundreds of students, or
the occasional custom tool/command. It was really nice to work in something like PL/P for
that stuff.
> 
> I'm not sure what you meant by PIC OS, unless you meant the Pick Database model, which
was originally implemented as a combined OS/DB setup. Prime did offer a version of the DB
model, called INFORMATION, which ran on the standard OS. It was a really nice rapid deployment
engine. They also had a version of Oracle available for it, though I never used it. I had
used some other 3rd-party relational DB products, and INFORMATION ran rings around them. The
Pick data model was designed with standard business data in mind, so it had some useful features
that ran fairly fast. I work in Oracle now, and am quite impressed with its speed, but having
to do all those table joins can sometimes be a real pain.
> 
> > On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> > 
> > > PL/1, boy that brings back memories.
> > > I worked for years on a mini-computer who's O/S was written using a
> > combination of a PL/1 subset and machine code. Really nice, Unix-like
> > O/S, that had Unix beat in some areas, lacked behind it in others.
> > Really kind of miss it these days.
> > > However, I don't think it really took 4+ years to really learn PL/1.
> > I seemed to have pretty well mastered it in a semester -- maybe a
> > little longer. I really liked how easy it was to get done what you
> > needed to do. And you'd think with IBM's clout it would have gotten
> > better penetration, but they seemed more intent on other technologies.
> > Probably not enough commission in it compared to COBOL.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: michel [mailto:compukat@videotron.ca]
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:50 PM
> > >> To: Tomcat Users List
> > >> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
> > >>
> > >> Don't know about you, but I was left really, really worried about
> > >> actually
> > >> being on a project under those conditions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Lots of room for doing a crash-and-burn ...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Back when I started in the business in 1982 I had to learn PL-1, the
> > >> best
> > >> darned language that never managed to get a good market share. It
> > was
> > >> said
> > >> that it took four years to really learn how to use it. These days
> > all
> > >> you
> > >> need is a crash course to be an expert!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Brian" <bbprefix-mail@yahoo.com>
> > >> To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 9:42 PM
> > >> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> That is true sometimes. I was hired by Arthur Andersen (RIP), they
> > sent
> > >> me
> > >> to an SAP crash-course, the tipe of course that shows you zillions
> > of
> > >> Powerpoint slides and you get out of the course with tons of doubts.
> > >> Then
> > >> they sent me directly to a proyect, and I bet they billed a lot for
> > my
> > >> time.
> > >> I was introduced as an experienced SAP consultant.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: michel [mailto:compukat@videotron.ca]
> > >>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 07:35 PM
> > >>> To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
> > >>>
> > >>> I once worked for a consulting company that wasn't a big 5, but
> > had
> > >> some
> > >>> pretty good contact. They hired me out of Montreal on Friday, had
> > me
> > >> in
> > >>> Denver on Sunday and spending 2 weeks in a training center so I
> > >> could
> > >>> become an instant 'expert' they could hire out for big $$$ on
> > >> different
> > >>> projects.
> > >>>
> > >>> Then I spent 3 months at home while they tried to get some
> > contacts,
> > >> and
> > >>> then got canned when they couldn't, then the guys who hired me got
> > >> canned
> > >>> ...
> > >>>
> > >>> I can't figure out how these companies can get away with this
> > >> nonsense.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Martin Gainty" <mgainty@hotmail.com>
> > >>> To: "Tomcat Users List" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
> > >>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:13 PM
> > >>> Subject: RE: Tomcat Consultant
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> triple your budget when the big 5 consultant steps out a
> > lamberghini
> > >> in a
> > >>> 1000 brooks brothers suit
> > >>>
> > >>> add 25% to the rate if he looks younger than zuckerberg
> > >>>
> > >>> BTW: big 5 consultants only speak english or hindi..you'll need a
> > >> hindi
> > >>> translator for spanish
> > >>>
> > >>> how about unisys???
> > >>>
> > >>> Saludos Cordiales desde EEUU
> > >>> Martin Gainty
> > >>> ______________________________________________
> > >>> No altere ni interrumpa por favor esta transmisión. Gracias
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:55:28 -0400
> > >>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
> > >>>> From: cerebrotecnologico@gmail.com
> > >>>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I should have copyrights on my name. LOL
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Brian <bbprefix-mail@yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: Jorge Medina [mailto:cerebrotecnologico@gmail.com]
> > >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 02:43 PM
> > >>>>>> To: Tomcat Users List
> > >>>>>> Subject: Re: Tomcat Consultant
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hey, you don't need a Big-5 consulting company.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Esto si que sonó gracioso.
> > >>>>> Aca en Peru, Arthur Andersen (QEPD) tenia a unos 3 socios,
uno de
> > >> los
> > >>>>> cuales
> > >>>>> se llamaba JORGE MEDINA. :-D
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> You need a a couple of experts: a networking guy and a
Tomcat
> > >> guy.
> > >>>>>> But anyway, I'm sure a Fortune 500 have the money to overpay
one
> > >> of
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>> Big-5.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Now, from my understanding, Tomcat is only a web app container
> > >> while
> > >>>>>> Websphere is an application server.
> > >>>>>> Therefore, depending on your application you may not be
able to
> > >>> migrate
> > >>>>>> it
> > >>>>>> to Tomcat, but rather to Glassfish. Glassfish is also an
> > >> application
> > >>>>> server.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -Jorge
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Christopher Schultz
> > >>>>>> <chris@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > >>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> To whom it may concern,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 9/24/2010 1:25 PM, tdelesio wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> My fortune 500 company is testing a pilot for switching
over
> > >> a
> > >> J2EE
> > >>>>>>>> web app over from Web Sphere application server
to Tomcat and
> > >> we
> > >>> are
> > >>>>>>>> looking for a consultant to setup a crusted production
> > >> instance of
> > >>>>>>>> tomcat.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Wait... are you testing it? If so, then you don't need
anyone
> > >> to
> > >> set
> > >>>>>>> it up, do you? By crusted, did you mean "trusted"?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Does anyone have any recommendations for a top
notch
> > >> consulting
> > >>> firm
> > >>>>>>>> that could provide these services?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I'm sure that any of the big-5 consulting companies
would be
> > >> very
> > >>>>>>> happy to take way more money than is necessary to set
up an
> > >> instance
> > >>>>>>> of Tomcat for you.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - -chris
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> > >> http://enigmail.mozdev.org/
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>> iEYEARECAAYFAkyc5o4ACgkQ9CaO5/Lv0PAjugCgiACwh5crjW+HXMKbzAWc+
> > >>>>>> A27
> > >>>>>>> dC4AoJjm6Dgs7FbMPrD3VBBdZl48VXas
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