Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 44265 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2010 22:54:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2010 22:54:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 80459 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2010 22:54:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 80416 invoked by uid 500); 3 Aug 2010 22:54:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list users@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 80407 invoked by uid 99); 3 Aug 2010 22:54:47 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:54:47 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS,STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of compukat@videotron.ca designates 24.201.245.36 as permitted sender) Received: from [24.201.245.36] (HELO relais.videotron.ca) (24.201.245.36) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:54:40 +0000 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Received: from michel ([24.202.165.131]) by VL-MO-MR006.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with SMTP id <0L6L006VHMAJK750@VL-MO-MR006.ip.videotron.ca> for users@tomcat.apache.org; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: <4BD5A44FBE664625A3D7F26F83353CFD@michel> From: michel To: Tomcat Users List References: <896B03616B3D41DD8084D2344A8FA4DD@michel> <4C56DAF6.80802@pidster.com> <763D32B4362E464C9492BA0B3B5751EE@michel> <4C56E9E1.2000003@pidster.com> <4C57FA6F.6070108@pidster.com> <4C583D20.3090205@list-post.mks-mail.de> <1575823C2B3047A784799F1D9CA07E55@michel> <4C589B03.50003@list-post.mks-mail.de> Subject: Re: [OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?) Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:54:23 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Sch�nhaber" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: [OT] broken mail clients (was: Re: Running PHP?) > 03.08.2010 18:14, michel: > >> From: "Markus Sch�nhaber" > >>> 03.08.2010 13:20, michel: >>> >>>> sorry, another empty email with just attachments ... >>> >>> No. >>> It's not Pid's fault if your "mail program" doesn't understand PGP/MIME. >> >> OK, I checked online and found >> >> Handling of PGP/MIME signed messages >> Outlook Express does not correctly handle MIME,[9] and will not display >> the >> body of signed messages inline. Users get a blank e-mail and two >> attachments >> (one of the message text and one of the signature) and therefore need to >> open an attachment to see the e-mail. ... This bug has still not been >> rectified. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlook_Express#Handling_of_PGP.2FMIME_signed_messages >> >> On one hand it's an MS bug, but then so many people (most?) use it, it >> rather leaves a large number of us not being able to read Pid's posting. > > 1. I don't see why anyone should not use a perfectly reasonable and > standards compliant way of signing his mails just to please buggy mail > clients. > If you choose to use one of those, then live with it's deficiencies but > don't blame Pid because he uses a 14-year old standard which the vendor > of your "mail client" has still failed to implement. > > 2. A quick scan through the 37596 posts to this list in my current > archive (going back till mid-March 2008) shows 957 of them which seem to > be sent with OE. That's roughly 2.5%. At least on this mailing list, > it's not "most" (not even "many people") that use OE. > I doubt that it's much different on other lists with IT subjects. > > -- > Regards > mks Markus, quite an eye-opener and I will just have to try switching email system! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tomcat.apache.org