Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 26876 invoked from network); 15 May 2009 15:00:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 May 2009 15:00:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 70354 invoked by uid 500); 15 May 2009 15:00:54 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-tomcat-users-archive@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 70310 invoked by uid 500); 15 May 2009 15:00:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@tomcat.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list users@tomcat.apache.org Received: (qmail 70298 invoked by uid 99); 15 May 2009 15:00:54 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 May 2009 15:00:54 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=10.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of ajmas@sympatico.ca designates 65.55.111.111 as permitted sender) Received: from [65.55.111.111] (HELO blu0-omc2-s36.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.111.111) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 May 2009 15:00:44 +0000 Received: from BLU0-SMTP94 ([65.55.111.72]) by blu0-omc2-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 15 May 2009 08:00:23 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [70.53.139.181] X-Originating-Email: [ajmas@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([70.53.139.181]) by BLU0-SMTP94.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Fri, 15 May 2009 08:00:23 -0700 From: Andre-John Mas To: "Tomcat Users List" In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Subject: Re: tomcat no longer writing to log files Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:00:21 -0400 References: <0AAE5AB84B013E45A7B61CB66943C17228D96D4EF8@USEA-EXCH7.na.uis.unisys.com> <4A0D41D7.28724.6CC950CE@ochanis.ncc.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2009 15:00:23.0648 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF9C3E00:01C9D56D] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 15-May-2009, at 10:37, Michael A. Repucci wrote: >> Also, tomcat does work "out of the box". Incorrect administration =20 >> of any >> system will stop it >> from working out of the box. > > > Honestly, what I'm most frustrated about isn't Tomcat, per say, but =20= > the > stuff written by my colleagues that should work with Tomcat. I'm a bit > baffled how the =FCber-cross-platform Java (and its disciples Ant and =20= > Tomcat) > could be used to create code that is extraordinarily sensitive to the > version and platforms on which it is compiled and run. I suppose =20 > that's just > because the code was poorly written, and you could probably write =20 > platform- > and version-dependent code in any language, but it would have been =20 > nice if I > could have installed whatever the latest packages were on my system, =20= > and > compiled and run successfully the first time. Instead I'm spending =20 > upwards > of a week learning all the internals. I guess that's useful in the =20 > long run, > but I could just use some good and patient guidance. Sorry to have =20 > stepped > on anybody's toes, and thank you all for your help. > I hate to say it, but the best way to make Java code have issues is =20 trying to be too smart when doing something. This usually results in code that =20 works in certain narrow situations, but not the rest. What I mean by being =20 'too smart' is when someone try to make the best 'uber' code possible, =20 which ends up being convoluted and only understandable to the author when it was written. I am not saying it is the case here, but programming is like hand writing, in that you do yourself a favour by making sure it is =20 written well enough that someone else can read it and yourself in a month's =20 time. On the other hand, there are different version of servlet specification, of Java, of Tomcat and each has their incompatibilities. Learning how to make your code work in the widest range of conditions will help make you a better programmer, IMHO. Andr=E9-John= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tomcat.apache.org