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From Alan Chaney <>
Subject Re: [OT] of the different methods to get a user-id
Date Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:34:09 GMT

I offer my opinions here as a real "grey beard" (literally). I certainly 
agree with you that people should have
a breath of skills allowing them to use the right tool at the right time.

However, notwithstanding the fact that the other day I worked out that I 
have actually used about 15 different programming languages in anger 
(that is, part of code used by other people) I have to admit that my 
occasional brush with Perl has been unrewarding (for both me and the 

My biggest problem is that I've never seen a little bit of typing as a 
big issue, but reading and trying to understand something a few 
weeks/months/years later is always fraught with difficulties. The main 
problem with perl is that I can never remember exactly what #@!$% means 
whereas something like getUserPrincipal() works for me!


Alan Chaney

Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> André,
> What the hell.. let's start a holy war?!
> On 2/13/2009 10:25 AM, André Warnier wrote:
>> Their merit is all the greater since
>> they work in the obscure non-graphical background, they never get any of
>> the attention, and they have to share machines with some Java programs,
>> which means they get only the usage of a tiny fraction of the RAM and
>> CPU cycles, although they do most of the real work and have to do it
>> with a single thread each.
> Hear, hear!
>> Even some of the old-school programmers, mostly in their later years,
>> succumb to the what-the-heck syndrome and come to appreciate the sense
>> of security and comfort provided by strongly-typed and rigidly
>> object-oriented languages
> Heck, lots of folks on this list won't even use cron to schedule jobs.
> Instead, they write web applications wrapped around Quartz because "it's
> just easier to deploy" or some other such nonsense. IMHO, you either
> have control of your production environment yourself (and can do
> whatever you want) or you have an ops team with complete control of your
> production environment (and they ought to be able to handle scary stuff
> like scheduling cron jobs and running shell scripts) or you have no
> control whatsoever and therefore do not have a production environment.
> There, I said it. :p
> On the other hand, seeing object-oriented perl really makes me queasy.
> - -chris
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