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From Christopher Schultz <>
Subject Re: [OT] of the different methods to get a user-id
Date Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:19:14 GMT
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What the hell.. let's start a holy war?!

On 2/13/2009 10:25 AM, André Warnier wrote:
> Their merit is all the greater since
> they work in the obscure non-graphical background, they never get any of
> the attention, and they have to share machines with some Java programs,
> which means they get only the usage of a tiny fraction of the RAM and
> CPU cycles, although they do most of the real work and have to do it
> with a single thread each.

Hear, hear!

> Even some of the old-school programmers, mostly in their later years,
> succumb to the what-the-heck syndrome and come to appreciate the sense
> of security and comfort provided by strongly-typed and rigidly
> object-oriented languages

Heck, lots of folks on this list won't even use cron to schedule jobs.
Instead, they write web applications wrapped around Quartz because "it's
just easier to deploy" or some other such nonsense. IMHO, you either
have control of your production environment yourself (and can do
whatever you want) or you have an ops team with complete control of your
production environment (and they ought to be able to handle scary stuff
like scheduling cron jobs and running shell scripts) or you have no
control whatsoever and therefore do not have a production environment.
There, I said it. :p

On the other hand, seeing object-oriented perl really makes me queasy.

- -chris
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