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From Ken Bowen <>
Subject [??-FIXED: Yes, but]SEVERE: Error listenerStart -- without entering the listener
Date Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:50:04 GMT

Somewhat odd.  I've been slowly reworking the app (significant  
rebuilding) for a couple of months, and have routinely been
seeing that log4j complaint, although everything was working ok  -- so  
of course I wasn't even seeing the complaint anymore,
expecting that everything would clean up as I worked my way through  
the app.

A base class that the listener extends contained
	private Log log = LogFactory.getLog(BaseAction.class);
and one call on log.  Commenting these out seems to allow the listener  
to run (again).  I can see how it might produce the
behavior I was seeing today.  But then I don't see how it was working  
for the past couple of months.

Sigh....math & computing are supposed to be deterministic, but that's  
relative to what I can wrap my head around.  LaGrange thought he could  
compute the position of everything for all time, but then he never got  
around to carrying out the computations.

Thanks for putting me on the right path,

On Aug 6, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Mark Thomas wrote:

> Ken Bowen wrote:
>> That's what's frustrating.   I'm using a new Tomcat unzip with  
>> simple JULI logging
> So what is the log4j message doing in this trace?
> Mark
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