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From David kerber <>
Subject Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site
Date Fri, 02 May 2008 14:25:53 GMT
Lyallex wrote:
> Greetings
> I guess given the lack of replies that most think this is too OT for
> this list, well I suppose it is but I couldn't resist answering.
> "Don't Do It"
> That is, don't use any framework at all.
> Download Tomcat and the relevant J2EE API documentation bundle, then
> goto the MySQL site and get the driver
> then go and get all sorts of stuff. Finally
> read (maybe this
> should be the other way around)
> This really is all you need. learning a framework is an overhead you
> can do without if you are getting into J2EE.
> I used to use Struts and JSF and Castor and lot's of other stuff but I
> found I was spending more time learning how to configure the framework
> than I was developing. My latest site has most of what you mention and
> not a framework in site.
> Follow the patterns, write cohesive POJOs and hide the business logic
> behind facades. Use the commons stuff, it works, it's free and it's
> documented (to a degree). I even used to eschew taglibs but I'm a
> convert now so use them where you can.
> NEVER put business logic anywhere other than in POJOs (or EJBs if you
> must) and never do anything other than rendering in jsp's.
> Use css, everywhere, all the time ... IE 6 is broken but most of the
> latest browsers are pretty good these days IMHO.
> <div> good, <table> bad (well not quite).
> Stick to this and you will be writing websites and earning money for
> the rest of your working life while others struggle to get heir head
> around the latest bloated XML nightmare config, docubabble latest
> greatest framework.
> Madness ? perhaps, but I spend my time learning the Java/J2EE APIs
> rather than reading framework documentation and I am never out of
> work.
> <Lights blue touchpaper and retires>
> Good Luck
> Lyallex
> On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 11:01 AM, qm westview <> wrote:
>>  *Hi there,* *I am an application programmer (Java, PHP) and almost new to
>>  web development. I am currently investigating as to what is the most
>>  appropriate/applicable open source platform/framework to develop a web site
>>  (simple to start but more comprehensive into the future) for tourism or
>>  tourist attractions. The following lists the basic support requirements
>>  (mainly multimedia, interactivity and future proof) * *1.      XHTML,
>>  JavaScript, Ajax* *2.      Multimedia – images, slides show, music, videos*
>>  *3.      Simple blogging facility * *4.      Community, Feedbacks * *5.
>>  Emailing for registered users (regular news release)* *6.      Database
>>  (mySQL or similar)* *7.      Search ability (text based)* *8.      Shopping
>>  facility (online, gift etc)* *9.      Management facility* *I have seen some
>>  CMS type of open system, such as Xoops, Lenya, Daisy, etc. But I do not have
>>  enough knowledge to make any choice decision. Just wondered if any
>>  experienced people here could help me or shed some lights please. * *I am a
>>  techi person and wouldn't mind the complicity of technology so long as the
>>  job can be done efficiently and effectively and low cost.* *Many thanks in
>>  advance,* *Mark*



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