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From Lyallex <lyal...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [OT] RE: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site
Date Fri, 02 May 2008 14:06:27 GMT
Peter

Never suggested the OP develop carts and such like from scratch really did I.

What I said was he should focus on learning the core APIs, that's a
little different.
Building your own business logic is a requirement whatever framework
you use (or don't use). If you can tell me where to find reusable
business logic then that will certainly save me time, I'd still want
to know how it worked though so black boxes are useless.

If, when you know the core you decide to rot your brain and spend
frustrating days trying to configure some bloody minded framework then
go for it, at least you'll have some idea where to look when it
doesn't work (they NEVER work first time in my experience).

Anyway OP, hope this little discussion has cleared things up for you :-))

Cheers
Lyallex



On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Peter Crowther
<Peter.Crowther@melandra.com> wrote:
> > From: Lyallex [mailto:lyallex@gmail.com]
>  > Subject: Re: Seeking advice as to what platform/framework to
>  > use for developing a tourism/tourist attractions web site
>
> >
>  > Greetings
>  >
>  > I guess given the lack of replies that most think this is too OT for
>  > this list, well I suppose it is but I couldn't resist answering.
>  >
>  > "Don't Do It"
>  >
>  > That is, don't use any framework at all.
>
>  Many of the OP's requirements are for existing tools.  Blog, shopping cart and the like.
 Developing those from scratch is rather like gathering the coal, clay and iron ore to make
your own oven to smelt your own iron ore to make your own axe to cut down your own tree to
make your own log cabin.  You *can*, and you get a lot of satisfaction from it, but it's a
lot easier to spend less time working for someone else, then rent a house.  Sure, it might
not be quite what you'd build yourself... but you get most of what you want a *lot* quicker.
>
>  So, to the OP, I'd say: compare the big systems that you mention.  Take a tour of each.
 Install a few.  You might spend a couple of weeks, maybe a couple of months doing this. 
Then pick one and go for it.  You'll have your system running - and customers using it - while
Lyallex is still building the data access layer for the no-framework one.
>
>                 - Peter
>
>
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