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From "Martin Gainty" <mgai...@hotmail.com>
Subject Re: Tomcat Not An App Server
Date Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:28:07 GMT
Good Morning Mike-

I found this tutorial very instructive
http://www.hibernate.org/114.html
Nota Bene: do'nt copy (your webapp) jars to $TOMCAT_HOME/server/lib $TOMCAT_HOME/shared/lib
or $TOMCAT_HOME/common/lib..

Anyone else??
M-
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Wannamaker" <Mike.Wannamaker@KINGSTON.Hummingbird.com>
To: "'Tomcat Users List'" <users@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: Tomcat Not An App Server


>I would love to just use JBoss, but there is a lot of political red-tape and
> we even have our own App Server, which too is not J2EE compliant.  It was
> probably developed before JBoss and the like.  We even had our own Web
> Container, but I've recently replaced it with Tomcat.
> 
> What I've done is ripped out our core services from our internal app server
> and provided an app server connector layer.  The idea is that we'll be able
> to plug into any app server like container.  Our own internal, JBoss,
> WebSphere, Tomcat???
> 
> That is the idea.  So we have customers that may have tomcat installed and
> perhaps they would like to utilize that instead of installing another app
> server.  So I would like to be able to somehow have Tomcat start our core
> services, much the way that JBoss would, before loading any web apps.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas on how that could be accomplished. 
> 
> Mike Wannamaker
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dhay@lexmark.com [mailto:dhay@lexmark.com] 
> Sent: July 13, 2006 4:55 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RE: Tomcat Not An App Server
> 
> How do your webapps communicate with the core services?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> David
> 
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> 
> Sorry guys I didn't mean to offend anyone.  I know that Tomcat offers a lot
> but what I meant is as you said, it's not a full J2EE App Server, like
> JBoss, WebSphere ...
> 
> What I have is a large enterprise application that does have a web
> application.  In fact it has many.  These web apps rely on our core
> services
> to be running.  Within JBoss etc I can install this as an EAR or SAR and
> JBoss will start it.
> 
> I was wondering if there is anything in Tomcat like that, were my Core
> Services could get loaded/started before the tomcat web container loads the
> web apps.  Thus I wouldn't have to code anything into the web apps
> themselves to try and start it.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Mike Wannamaker
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Smith [mailto:dns4@cornell.edu]
> Sent: July 13, 2006 4:05 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat Not An App Server
> 
> Tomcat's not really an app server?  Geee really, I feel so inadequate
> now. :-(
> 
> Seriously, I think I've seen this religious war around here somewhere
> and it really depends on definition.  No, it's not a full J2EE
> container, but it's definitely an app server in my opinion.
> 
> Have you read the servlet spec and thought about the
> ServletContextListener for handling the start/shutdown of a component
> within your app?
> 
> --David
> 
> Mike Wannamaker wrote:
> 
>>I know that Tomcat is not really an App Server like JBoss etc... However,
> if
>>I had a component that was not a web application and I wanted to start it
>>inside tomcat how could I do that ?
>>
>>Is there some configuration file I would need to add something to in order
>>to have a component started and would I need to implement some Tomcat
>>interface to do it?
>>
>>TIA
>>Mike Wannamaker
>>
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