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From Christopher Schultz <>
Subject Re: Tomcat Not An App Server
Date Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:05:02 GMT

>> Here's a suggestion: create a new webapp that doesn't actually have any
>> servlets. Just create a ContextListener that responds to START and STOP
>> requests, and use the listener to startup your services.
> I believe you and Martin are saying the same thing.  I could do that however
> I would need my jar file to be in $TOMCAT_HOME/shared/lib probably.  I can't
> have each different web app starting new instances of the services.
> Services are only started once be Tomcat Server.

No, in fact it's better if you /don't/ have your JAR file in
TOMCAT_HOME/shared/lib: you want a completely separate webapp. You can
even put it into a WAR file and drop it into the auto-deploy directory
if you have Tomcat to auto-deploy WAR files.

In this way, you have a completely portable webapp that simply does not
have any servlets running within it. The only trick is to get Tomcat to
load that webapp /before/ any other webapps start.

One option is to startup a separate instance of Tomcat for the purposes
of only hosting this services webapp, and run your other webapps however
you wish. You simply have to start the services instance of Tomcat
before starting any other instances. This strategy also allows you to
bring your services up and down (possibly for an upgrade) without
disturbing the dependent webapps.

Don't let the term "webapp" get in the way... your services (JMS or
something like it?) will be available just as you are accustomed to
having them. You are only adding a thin layer (the ContextListener) to
get them started within Tomcat -- because it does not have some of the
features aforementioned app servers.


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