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From Brad O'Hearne <br...@neurofire.com>
Subject Which direction: mod_jk or mod_proxy_ajp? (was: why use mod_jk?)
Date Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:01:34 GMT
I suppose this question deserved its own thread. Before I spend any  
more time trying to get this configured, I would like to know what is  
the best way to proceed: mod_jk or mod_proxy_ajp?

Thanks,

Brad

On Feb 24, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Brad O'Hearne wrote:

> Jess,
>
> Thanks for the reply. Responses below:
>
> On Feb 24, 2006, at 6:51 AM, Jess Holle wrote:
>
>> If you're using Apache 1.3.x or 2.0.x, mod_jk is pretty simple  
>> overall.
>>
>> No, you don't want to even try in-process stuff and, yes, if you  
>> have a firewall in between Apache and Tomcat that drops idle  
>> connections you should read carefully (this is covered by the docs).
>>
>> The only big complaint I have is that the mod_jk docs don't make  
>> it terribly clear (or didn't last I checked) exactly how to set  
>> jvmRoute in Tomcat and how extraordinarily critical this is when  
>> doing load balancing.  The Tomcat docs don't make this terribly  
>> clear either -- apart from a comment in server.xml.  Most everyone  
>> I know who tries mod_jk load balancing gets hung up on this one  
>> point unless/until I give them a detailed explanation.  Apart from  
>> the lack of clear/obvious information on this in the mod_jk docs  
>> (which should include it considering most folk won't think to  
>> check both mod_jk and Tomcat docs), this is actually very simple  
>> as well, though.
>>
>
> None of the configuration steps in and of itself are difficult.  
> Building mod_jk is not difficult. Editing configuration files is  
> not difficult. Its after you've put it all together, exactly as  
> noted on a hodge-podge of Googled URLs, and it doesn't work, and  
> one cryptic line in a log file, and the right connections not being  
> made between apache and tomcat, which send you into hours of trial  
> and error. With regards to your comments above, I didn't tangle  
> with load balancing at all, and apache and tomcat reside on the  
> same box, no firewall between them. Yes, you'd think this would be  
> simple.
>
>> I am looking forward to mod_proxy_ajp as it is supposed be a tiny  
>> bit faster.
>
> You say you are "looking forward to mod_proxy_ajp" -- does this  
> mean its not available yet, or you just aren't using it yet? While  
> I am glad to learn now of mod_proxy_ajp, I guess this kind of adds  
> to my frustration a bit -- what is the way to go now and why:  
> mod_proxy_ajp or mod_jk?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Brad
>
>>
>> --
>> Jess Holle
>>
>> Brad O'Hearne wrote:
>>> mod_proxy_ajp? Yet another twist. Its just hard for me to believe  
>>> that "how do I integrate tomcat and apache httpd?" is such a  
>>> mystery / unknown. This seems like it would be question #1 on any  
>>> Tomcat FAQ.
>>>
>>> So where can I found out more about mod_proxy_ajp. Is there a  
>>> Tomcat resource which explains the configuration of it?
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Barker wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Brad O'Hearne" <brado@neurofire.com> wrote in message news: 
>>>> 43FEBA07.3020707@neurofire.com...
>>>>
>>>>> After wasting time trying to configure mod_jk, I thought I'd  
>>>>> just wipe my mind free and just play dumb for a moment. If  
>>>>> Apache can proxy requests using mod_proxy, what is the benefit  
>>>>> of using mod_jk as an integration technique between httpd and  
>>>>> tomcat, if integration is *not* in-process, which I understand  
>>>>> is not recommended for Tomcat 5.5?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually, in-process with mod_jk is only supported (and, I use  
>>>> the term lightly :) for TC 3.3.x.  For any higher versions it  
>>>> doesn't work at all.
>>>>
>>>> You've managed to grasp the deep, dark plan of the Tomcat  
>>>> developers:  It is expected that people will migrate to  
>>>> mod_proxy_ajp with Httpd 2.2+, and mod_jk is expected to move to  
>>>> supporting IIS/SunOne only (and, the later only if somebody  
>>>> steps up with interest :).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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