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From "Didier McGillis" <>
Subject Re: [OT]web development fee
Date Thu, 06 Jan 2005 15:40:06 GMT
There is the java pet shop project, which someone eluded to, there are 
offshoots of that project with a good deal of optimization done, and update 
done to the code, there is a free version and another one that is minimal 
charge of $199. another offshoot


>From: "Daniel Watrous" <>
>Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
>To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
>Subject: Re: [OT]web development fee
>Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 23:02:43 -0700
>I have heard of  I haven't 
>used it though.  A search on Google will likely give you a handful to 
>choose from.  Also you might consider taking ideas from the Java Pet Store.
>The hourly rate depends on a lot of things.  I can't make a good 
>generalization about hourly rate...
>----- Original Message ----- From: "epyonne" <>
>To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:30 AM
>Subject: Re: [OT]web development fee
>>Thanks for the response. No, what I develop for my employer is not 
>>related. They are mostly for internal processing. Some of my web 
>>are used by our call centers.
>>Among the 3 options that you have stated, I think I will go with either #1
>>or #3. If I go with #3, do you know where I can find such application?
>>Also, can you tell me what is the going rate for a contract job like this?
>>$50/hr, $100/hr, or more? I don't have any idea at all.
>>Thank you very much for your help and all the other posters' help!
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Watrous" 
>>To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:00 AM
>>Subject: Re: [OT]web development fee
>>>First off, I don't think that you hijacked anyone's thread, but this list
>>>seems to be very sensitive to that (and perhaps more affected by it than
>>>other lists I have seen).
>>>>From my experience there are a couple of options you can pursue:
>>>1) You could build the application from the ground up and charge an 
>>>rate.  The rate will have to be agreed upon by you and the person
>>>contracting you.
>>>2) You could develop the eCommerce application at your own cost and sell 
>>>license to it.  In this case you would have more direct control over the
>>>features you build into it.  Also, while this costs you more up front
>>>is more possibility to recover the cost in selling multiple licenses.
>>>3) You could purchase a license to an existing application and adapt it 
>>>meet your clients' needs.  In this case you would likely charge a flat 
>>>to recover your hard costs for the purchase and an hourly after that for
>>>adaptations.  In this case I personally would ask for the hard costs up
>>>front so as to not go to the expense and then have the client change
>>>Now about the way you asked your question, I'm not sure if the "web
>>>application" you have developed for your employer is an eCommerce
>>>application.  In the event that it is eCommerce related you will likely
>>>that as a base for whatever you build for your new client.  In this case
>>>should discuss with your employer how he feels about you building off of 
>>>code base that he has funded.  It may be that you could work out an
>>>arrangement with your employer to accomplish option 3 above, and that 
>>>employer will give you a "license" at a significant savings to you.
>>>As far as contracts go,  you should probably consult with a lawyer for
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "epyonne" <>
>>>To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:26 AM
>>>Subject: [OT]web development fee
>>>Since I am using Outlook Express, I did not realize that I was attaching
>>>someone else thread and I apologize for that. I am starting a new thread
>>>here and hopefully someone can help me.
>>>I have been developing Java web application for my employer for a few
>>>but these are all running on our company's intranet only. Now someone is
>>>asking me to develop an eCommerce site. I don't know how to charge him.
>>>someone please give me some ideas of the going rate and what kind of
>>>contractual agreement I need? Is there anything else I need to watch out
>>>I am in the United States and I plan to use a commercial hosting company
>>>host the site. It will cost around $30-40 a month.
>>>Any help will be very much appreciated.
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