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From "Daniel Watrous" <>
Subject Re: [OT]web development fee
Date Thu, 06 Jan 2005 06:02:43 GMT
I have heard of  I haven't 
used it though.  A search on Google will likely give you a handful to choose 
from.  Also you might consider taking ideas from the Java Pet Store.

The hourly rate depends on a lot of things.  I can't make a good 
generalization about hourly rate...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "epyonne" <>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [OT]web development fee

> Daniel,
> Thanks for the response. No, what I develop for my employer is not 
> eCommerce
> related. They are mostly for internal processing. Some of my web 
> application
> are used by our call centers.
> Among the 3 options that you have stated, I think I will go with either #1
> or #3. If I go with #3, do you know where I can find such application?
> Also, can you tell me what is the going rate for a contract job like this?
> $50/hr, $100/hr, or more? I don't have any idea at all.
> Thank you very much for your help and all the other posters' help!
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Daniel Watrous" <>
> To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT]web development fee
>> Epyonne,
>> First off, I don't think that you hijacked anyone's thread, but this list
>> seems to be very sensitive to that (and perhaps more affected by it than
>> other lists I have seen).
>> From my experience there are a couple of options you can pursue:
>> 1) You could build the application from the ground up and charge an 
>> hourly
>> rate.  The rate will have to be agreed upon by you and the person
>> contracting you.
>> 2) You could develop the eCommerce application at your own cost and sell 
>> a
>> license to it.  In this case you would have more direct control over the
>> features you build into it.  Also, while this costs you more up front
> there
>> is more possibility to recover the cost in selling multiple licenses.
>> 3) You could purchase a license to an existing application and adapt it 
>> to
>> meet your clients' needs.  In this case you would likely charge a flat 
>> fee
>> to recover your hard costs for the purchase and an hourly after that for
> any
>> adaptations.  In this case I personally would ask for the hard costs up
>> front so as to not go to the expense and then have the client change
> his/her
>> mind.
>> Now about the way you asked your question, I'm not sure if the "web
>> application" you have developed for your employer is an eCommerce
>> application.  In the event that it is eCommerce related you will likely
> use
>> that as a base for whatever you build for your new client.  In this case
> you
>> should discuss with your employer how he feels about you building off of 
>> a
>> code base that he has funded.  It may be that you could work out an
>> arrangement with your employer to accomplish option 3 above, and that 
>> your
>> employer will give you a "license" at a significant savings to you.
>> As far as contracts go,  you should probably consult with a lawyer for
> that.
>> Daniel
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "epyonne" <>
>> To: "Tomcat Users List" <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:26 AM
>> Subject: [OT]web development fee
>> Since I am using Outlook Express, I did not realize that I was attaching
> to
>> someone else thread and I apologize for that. I am starting a new thread
>> here and hopefully someone can help me.
>> I have been developing Java web application for my employer for a few
> years,
>> but these are all running on our company's intranet only. Now someone is
>> asking me to develop an eCommerce site. I don't know how to charge him.
> Can
>> someone please give me some ideas of the going rate and what kind of
>> contractual agreement I need? Is there anything else I need to watch out
>> for?
>> I am in the United States and I plan to use a commercial hosting company
> to
>> host the site. It will cost around $30-40 a month.
>> Any help will be very much appreciated.
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