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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 12:48:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerardo Juarez <gerardo@computo-industrial.com.mx>
To: Tomcat Users List <tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
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I think a UNIX admin should know how hard it is to debug a problem when it
is not accompanied by any other information. A UNIX admin should also know 
that novice users normally don't see anything abnormal in the logs. They 
have to list the output of a program for you to notice something. Ninety 
percent of the time the assertion 'the log says nothing' is false. UNIX 
admins know that.

Please post the log and any information that may give us more context.

Gerardo

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 Daniel_Salud@spe.sony.com wrote:

> First of all, let me tell you that I am not a big fan of tomcat and second 
> if you just want to annoy me, don't even reply to my question.
> Be professional man. I am soliciting for clue on where else to look. I am 
> a Unix admin and not a an app admin. I also managed Weblogic and it's a 
> lot
> easier for me to debug.
> 
> Thanks.
> Daniel Salud
> (310)665-6583
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Shapira, Yoav" <Yoav.Shapira@mpi.com>
> 10/01/2004 08:35 AM
> Please respond to "Tomcat Users List"
> 
>  
>         To:     "Tomcat Users List" <tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org>
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        RE: Tomcat Question - HELP
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> So something went wrong, you looked at the logs and didn't see anything
> to help you debug the problem, restarted the server, now it's all fine,
> and you expect someone else to have a clue as to what went wrong?  Come
> on ;)  Post the log if still have it, otherwise have a good weekend ;)
> 
> Yoav Shapira
> Millennium Research Informatics
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Daniel_Salud@spe.sony.com [mailto:Daniel_Salud@spe.sony.com]
> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:34 AM
> >To: Tomcat Users List
> >Subject: Re: Tomcat Question - HELP
> >
> >anybody ?
> >
> >Daniel Salud
> >(310)665-6583
> >----- Forwarded by Daniel Salud/LA/SPE on 10/01/2004 08:32 AM -----
> >
> >
> >Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com>
> >09/30/2004 07:15 PM
> >
> >
> >        To:     Daniel_Salud@spe.sony.com
> >        cc:
> >        Subject:        Re: Tomcat Question - HELP
> >
> >
> >Quoting Daniel_Salud@spe.sony.com (Daniel_Salud@spe.sony.com):
> >
> >> I have a tomcat question:
> >>
> >> I killed the tomcat PID and restarted it using my start up script on
> >> /etc/rc2.d (Unix - Sun). I saw a new PID after I restarted it but it
> >won't
> >> open the
> >> jsp page and I cannot to my servlets. I was getting Internal Server
> >error.
> >> It appears that Tomcat did not actually start.I looked at the
> Catalina
> >out
> >> logs
> >> but nothing much there to tell what was the issue.
> >>
> >> I have to reboot the server to clear tomcat and it started just fine
> >after
> >> reboot.
> >>
> >> Any ideas what cause it not to restart ?
> >>
> >> Daniel Salud
> >> (310)665-6583
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks for your mail about "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way".
> >As a reminder, that essay suggests (generic) ways to ensure
> >you're asking technical questions in the right way, in the right place.
> >
> >People write back for one of two _very_ different reasons:
> >
> >o  Good reason:  Sending feedback/suggestions to help improve the
> essay.
> >o  VERY BAD reason:  Asking essay co-author Rick Moen for technical
> help.
> >
> >Guess what?  99% of such mails are for the VERY BAD type of reason.
> >If you're about to do that, STOP.  Do something else.  Anything.
> >Don't act like a moron:  Rick Moen is _not_ your personal, private
> >helpdesk.
> >
> >The other 1% of you who want to discuss ways to improve "How to Ask
> >Questions
> >the Smart Way", thank you!  Please reach Rick at "rick@linuxmafia.com".
> >
> >
> >This is an automated e-mail.  (Your mail has not reached a human.)
> >
> >Thanks! Mr. Autoresponder
> 
> 
> 
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