Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 32325 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2004 21:09:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Sep 2004 21:09:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 72711 invoked by uid 500); 20 Sep 2004 21:08:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-user-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 72693 invoked by uid 500); 20 Sep 2004 21:08:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Users List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 72680 invoked by uid 99); 20 Sep 2004 21:08:48 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=CASHCASHCASH X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [217.8.139.61] (HELO gandalf.havleik.no) (217.8.139.61) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:08:46 -0700 Received: from [10.1.1.2] (pennywise.havleik.no [10.1.1.2]) by gandalf.havleik.no (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id i8KL8fxs017359 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:08:41 +0200 Message-ID: <414F46D9.3090904@havleik.no> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:08:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn_T_Johansen?= Organization: Havleik Consulting User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat vs BEA Weblogic? References: <9C5166762F311146951505C6790A9CF80229C1B7@US-VS1.corp.mpi.com> In-Reply-To: <9C5166762F311146951505C6790A9CF80229C1B7@US-VS1.corp.mpi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Havleik-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Havleik Consulting for more information X-Havleik-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: btj@havleik.no X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N So the conclusion would be that BEA isn't worth the cost... And since I am used to using opensource, including Tomcat, then Tomcat seems to be the right way to go... (and maybe JBoss if we get that far...) Thanks for your replies... :) BTJ Shapira, Yoav wrote: > Hi, > I would add a couple of minor points, as others have already covered the main ones. > > You say you're only using Weblogic's JSP container. Tomcat's JSP container (known as Jasper) is used not only by Tomcat, but by JBoss, JonAS, IBM's Websphere, and a number of other commercial products. So by switching, you not only get a free solution (BEA is $$$$$ as others have noted), but one that's used by a huge customer base and with many support options. > > As QM noted, there's no official professional services provider for Tomcat, or Apache in general. The ASF cannot sanction such an "official" provider because of its legal formulation. However, there are a number of support companies which will do Apache, Tomcat, and Jasper. Some of them, such as Covalent, have an excellent track record, numerous Fortune 1000 customers, and 24x7 support. That should be sufficient to CYA for management, which as someone mentioned is always a consideration. > > Yoav Shapira > Millennium Research Informatics > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bj�rn T Johansen [mailto:btj@havleik.no] >>Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 7:32 PM >>To: Tomcat Users List >>Subject: Tomcat vs BEA Weblogic? >> >>I am taking over a project that's running on Weblogic 8.1 SP3 today.. They >>are only using >>the jsp-container and it is time to renew the support agreement with BEA. >>So I was just wondering, is it worth it? Or is Tomcat as good as WL or >>maybe better? Does >>WL have features that is missing in Tomcat? When the time comes to use EJB, >>is JBoss as >>good as/better than WL? >> >>So basically, I would like some advice on why I should/shouldn't continue >>with Weblogic? :) >> >> >> >>Regards, >> >>BTJ >>-- >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-------------------- >>Bj�rn T Johansen >>btj@havleik.no >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-------------------- >>Someone wrote: >>"I understand that if you play a Windows CD backwards you hear strange >>Satanic messages" >>To which someone replied: >>"It's even worse than that; play it forwards and it installs Windows" >>--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>-------------------- >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-user-help@jakarta.apache.org > > > > > > This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. 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