From tomcat-user-return-104893-apmail-jakarta-tomcat-user-archive=jakarta.apache.org@jakarta.apache.org Wed Jul 07 15:13:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 34763 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2004 15:13:13 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 7 Jul 2004 15:13:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 69243 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jul 2004 14:42:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-tomcat-user-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 69111 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jul 2004 14:42:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact tomcat-user-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tomcat Users List" Reply-To: "Tomcat Users List" Delivered-To: mailing list tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 68951 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jul 2004 14:42:38 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_IMS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [62.161.171.73] (HELO mars.sogitec.fr) (62.161.171.73) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 07:42:35 -0700 Received: by mars.sogitec.fr; id RAA00116; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 17:25:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200407071525.RAA00116@mars.sogitec.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: antivirus.sogitec.fr: iscan owned process doing -bs From: PATTUS Jean-Philippe To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the worstthingsto ever happen Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:41:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_IS_MIME_Boundary" X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --=_IS_MIME_Boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable very constructive!!! please could you don't use this list for yours great ideas.... We understood that you don't want to use jstl,=20 it's your problem. -----Message d'origine----- De : Ivan Jouikov [mailto:ivj@comcast.net] Envoy=C3=A9 : mercredi 7 juillet 2004 09:56 =C3=80 : 'Tomcat Users List' Objet : RE: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the worstthingsto ever happen > Subject: Re: I've officially decided that JSTL is one of the = worstthingsto > ever happen >=20 > Oh, man, ... >=20 > > Ok let's settle this argument simple. > > > > Tonight, I'll ask my Christian Science friend to talk to Jesus, >=20 > Why not ask Jesus yourself? Prayer is open to anyone, and is not = limited > to the night. Ehh not for me. I'm a heathen and I'm going straight to hell, so there's no point in even trying. Night is preferable because usually = prayer goes hand in hand with virgin boy sacrifice, and there's less people = around at night to hear the screams in the church basement. >=20 > > and ask him the following: > > > > "Jesus, if EL really DOES decrease performance significantly, > > and should not be used at all, please give me absolutely NO sign. > > However, if EL is a great thing and should be used by everyone, = please > > give me a sign". >=20 > Are you sure you haven't been setting us up just so you could say = that? > I'll admit, the 2LA for Expression Language causes me pause, but, ... >=20 > Well, just in case you're serious, I'll mention Matthew 12, ca. 39. > Might also mention Gideon and his fleece. Huh? >=20 > > I'll report to you in the morning and let you know what was God's > opinion on that. >=20 > I have an idea what He would say: >=20 > Use the tools you understand. Work hard. Be happy. > But don't insult other people by insulting their tools. >=20 > And don't tweak people just because they use strange 2LAs > for their runtime expression languages. >=20 > I might be wrong, of course. >=20 > -- > Joel >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: tomcat-user-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: tomcat-user-help@jakarta.apache.org >=20 > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 05.07.2004 >=20 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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